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Re: Collection of Sun Workstation boot logos

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Post by ProtoMathics »

DonHopkins wrote: post #9

Vaughan Pratt designed the original Sun Microsystems logo, which is an ambigram (and also a swastikoid rotation group): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaughan_Pratt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambigram https://www.famouslogos.org/logos/sun-microsystems-logo It originally had a square orientation: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jtWyvhXXKw8/WMhYGNM4huI/AAAAAAAAG... John Gage suggested turning it 45 degrees (making it even…

Who even has such a word in vocabulary and first thing your mind came up with is ...

But hey, maybe youre just salty after googling Sparcbook and realizing how innovative Apple was with Touchbar XD ( which apple killed by using it wrong )

Re: Collection of Sun Workstation boot logos

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Post by ProtoMathics »

ianai wrote: post #12
jdswain wrote: post #6

I do miss the diversity of computing from back then. Today everything has converged on looking and acting almost the same, but back then there was so much more choice. Amiga, Atari St, Mac, SGI, Sun, NeXT, and a whole lot more.

Yep. Nowadays a new release is likely to take features or design away or backwards for seemingly the need to be different. Like the many times Microsoft has tried to take away the Start menu. Gnome 2 to 3. Etc. Meanwhile Planet 9 tried to pull off a logical extension of unix only to be abandoned. Some of those ideas live on, but probably not as extensively as P9 would have allowed.

Plan9 and EMACS have architecture which is antithetic to economic model of todays software industry, so in that sense im glad we did have windows95-like buggy macos (until atleast 10.4-10.5) XD

EMACS is essentially SAP+github+Office(including Visio and Power Automate) for your own offcloud usage. If you think about it.

Re: Collection of Sun Workstation boot logos

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Post by ProtoMathics »

0des wrote: post #23
gonzo wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you mean “Plan 9”; in case anyone wants to search for it.

A subset of us still use plan9, usually in the form of 9front. Every time I think of Plan9, I get a little misty eyed and wistful. I'm just old enough to remembering time sharing systems and mainframes. These days looking at whats called cloud, I'm seeing a lot of the old architecture coming back, loosely speaking. Mobile devices are like the new dumb terminals, the browser is the shell, and the cloud is our mainfram…

NEXTgen hardware virtualization + QUBES OS-like usage of virtualization but made nice looking and frictionless to standard user. Thats the future we get.

Re: Collection of Sun Workstation boot logos

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Post by ProtoMathics »

pjmlp wrote: post #26
jdswain wrote: post #6

I do miss the diversity of computing from back then. Today everything has converged on looking and acting almost the same, but back then there was so much more choice. Amiga, Atari St, Mac, SGI, Sun, NeXT, and a whole lot more.

And everyone took the effort to write proper native applications instead of something like Electron.

convert all JS to "native" via LLVM.... or just webassembly ..

programming languages are ONLY communication layers between human and computer, they are not some voodoo, gift from god, so these layers can be made to suit human needs.

instead of browser downloading blob from facebook, your package manager will dowload it, and that can be made over P2P (like torrent) because you do not need it in 0.000001 sec. it will sit in cache. and this can be signed with current certification authority ecosystem almost without change to provide safe downloads.

Re: Collection of Sun Workstation boot logos

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Post by ProtoMathics »

lokedhs wrote: post #15
zeruch wrote: post #2

Oh, the nostalgia...(disclosure: worked at Sun in the mid 90s)

Same. I left early 2000's. At one point I wrote a an OpenGL game which ended up on the demo CD that came with the Ultra workstations. It contained a big 3D Sun logo that I created by manually writing the appropriate code in C. It was easy once I figured out that the dimensions of the logo are all very nice even values. The game itself should still be available on one of those discs. Perhaps someone created an image o…

archive.org does have some ISOs of sun / sparc software try look it up XD

Re: Collection of Sun Workstation boot logos

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Post by the_only_law »

neilv wrote: post #21

In the Sun-3 (Motorola 68K) and early Sun-4 (SPARC) workstations, you got just the monochrome logo. It was nice and tasteful, fitting well alongside a large black-on-white serif console font. Then the first time you saw an early Sun-4 with CG6 graphics boot, with the full-color 3D image, on that black-on-white console display, it seemed a little out of place, but cool. The Linux boot logo of the Tux penguin might've…

I’ve heard some of these had Forth in ROM, which would be fun to play with, but the only type of Sun machines I see in the market are later Sun Stations and I have 0 clue if those have forth as well.

Re: Collection of Sun Workstation boot logos

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Post by the_only_law »

jdswain wrote: post #6

I do miss the diversity of computing from back then. Today everything has converged on looking and acting almost the same, but back then there was so much more choice. Amiga, Atari St, Mac, SGI, Sun, NeXT, and a whole lot more.

> I do miss the diversity of computing from back then

I’ve thought about this for a while. All sorts of different architectures, companies, protocol, etc. whereas computing seems to be a massive monoculture now. We basically only have a handful of operating systems, most of which are based off something from decades ago, basically only two architectures still succeeded and one of them just seems to be hacks piled on top of hacks, etc.

I get that there’s a reason certain stuff won out, but it’s just boring to me personally.

Even compared to not that long ago, I look at PC cases from 10-15 years ago and see a ton of cool and unique designs, anything from recent times seems to be reduced to “white or black case with flashy lights”.

Re: Collection of Sun Workstation boot logos

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Post by junon »

ProtoMathics wrote: post #41
DonHopkins wrote: post #9

Vaughan Pratt designed the original Sun Microsystems logo, which is an ambigram (and also a swastikoid rotation group): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaughan_Pratt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambigram https://www.famouslogos.org/logos/sun-microsystems-logo It originally had a square orientation: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jtWyvhXXKw8/WMhYGNM4huI/AAAAAAAAG... John Gage suggested turning it 45 degrees (making it even…

Who even has such a word in vocabulary and first thing your mind came up with is ... But hey, maybe youre just salty after googling Sparcbook and realizing how innovative Apple was with Touchbar XD ( which apple killed by using it wrong )

... What?

Re: Collection of Sun Workstation boot logos

#50

Post by ianai »

ProtoMathics wrote: post #42
ianai wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. Nowadays a new release is likely to take features or design away or backwards for seemingly the need to be different. Like the many times Microsoft has tried to take away the Start menu. Gnome 2 to 3. Etc. Meanwhile Planet 9 tried to pull off a logical extension of unix only to be abandoned. Some of those ideas live on, but probably not as extensively as P9 would have allowed.

Plan9 and EMACS have architecture which is antithetic to economic model of todays software industry, so in that sense im glad we did have windows95-like buggy macos (until atleast 10.4-10.5) XD EMACS is essentially SAP+github+Office(including Visio and Power Automate) for your own offcloud usage. If you think about it.

How is it antithetic? Being able to “mount” external compute to a local terminal is a recipe for selling more hardware. I mean both PlayStation and Xbox can be locally streamed to a phone or tablet. Granted, it did take basically 20 years for those suits to come along to the idea.

The whole obsolescence through a glued on battery and all the other nastiness of modern mobiles does make a point though. They do want their recurring revenue streams for cloud resources. But that essentially moves the mountable resources to a provider.

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