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Re: Microsoft Opens New HQ in Toronto

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>What Canada doesn’t have is a strong venture capital pool, a culture of risk taking, or a domestic market of 330 million people which stifles new businesses. Replace Canada with EU and it's the same.

I was going to say UK!

I doubt it, London tech wages, especially in the City, beat everything else in the EU.

Re: Microsoft Opens New HQ in Toronto

#53
post #36

Are they going to pay enough for their developers to actually live near this Bay St office? Canadian developer salaries are abysmally low.

When I worked for a big US company it was very clear- you open an office in Canada because it’s cheaper. So, probably not.

>you open an office in Canada because it’s cheaper.

Or, to hire international tech workers who you can't bring to your US office for visa reasons.

Re: Microsoft Opens New HQ in Toronto

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post #36

Are they going to pay enough for their developers to actually live near this Bay St office? Canadian developer salaries are abysmally low.

When I worked for a big US company it was very clear- you open an office in Canada because it’s cheaper. So, probably not.

I thought that was standard all over the world but then I worked in finance in Europe, American banks pay literally twice as much as European banks in Europe.

Re: Microsoft Opens New HQ in Toronto

#56

I hope we get more offices opening up in Vancouver soon as well. Toronto has more momentum as the tech centre but Vancouver has better weather and is a beautiful place to live.

How do homeless issues compare? I know when I was a kid there was a big problem in Vancouver, I imagine it’s only gotten worse.

Re: Microsoft Opens New HQ in Toronto

#57

Are they going to pay enough for their developers to actually live near this Bay St office? Canadian developer salaries are abysmally low.

Yea I’m surprised how little Microsoft pays in Vancouver according to levels.fyi. If an American company paid 80% of American salary to Canadians they would have their pick of Canada’s top talent. This slowly appears to be happening with Meta jobs in Canada. Canada has the same time zones, a similar culture, is geographically close, the same language, and excellent computer science/engineering programs. What Canada d…

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Re: Microsoft Opens New HQ in Toronto

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post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I worked for a big US company it was very clear- you open an office in Canada because it’s cheaper. So, probably not.

>you open an office in Canada because it’s cheaper. Or, to hire international tech workers who you can't bring to your US office for visa reasons.

Yes, this is right. Big Tech is mostly focused on Canada and EU because they can hire people from (chiefly) China and India without H1-Bs.

According to a director I spoke with it’s because they can’t find enough qualified engineers, not to save money.

Seems we should just be opening more offices in Hyderabad, I don’t know why that isn’t done more. Political security maybe?

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