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Taking a break from social media makes you happier and less anxious

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Re: Taking a break from social media makes you happier and less anxious

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At Facebook / Meta, employees often questioned Mark Zuckerberg whenever a study like this came out. Zuckerberg noted that the same held true for news media. Reporters do not like to mention this.

It might be the case that the psychological process here is that making a conscious change to your lifestyle makes you happier and less anxious (temporarily?). If so then the same is true of literally anything.

Re: Taking a break from social media makes you happier and less anxious

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post #75

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This is social media. (Not to detract entirely from your statement with my pendantics.)

I was expecting this comment, tbh :) This is true to some extent. Yet the scale and mechanics of HN are (vastly?) different from your typical social media. Also, brands are mostly absent, except for the YC specific posts. In my opinion, HN relates more to a good ol' forum rather than typical social media, as defined nowadays.

Old school forums were still social media, they just hadn’t been labeled as such yet.

Some of my most toxic moments as a teenager/young adult occurred on forums. I had to leave them entirely. Praise the lord I left them when I did because some of my old friends said some rather stupid stuff on forums and are paying for it now.

Re: Taking a break from social media makes you happier and less anxious

#83
post #61

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That's a weird mix of contemporary events to mention together.

This is the kind of stuff that ends up filling my news feed. None of it has ever had any real effect on my life but it all seems to get equal feed real estate on reddit/twitter

Unsure about that.. I don't think Australia has been isolated from the rippling effects of price increases of grain and energy, that is one effect of the war in Ukraine. Probably not as much affected as many other countries, but I think you would still import products from countries where these effects are significant, and which have had to raise their prices due to it.

Re: Taking a break from social media makes you happier and less anxious

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post #82
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was expecting this comment, tbh :) This is true to some extent. Yet the scale and mechanics of HN are (vastly?) different from your typical social media. Also, brands are mostly absent, except for the YC specific posts. In my opinion, HN relates more to a good ol' forum rather than typical social media, as defined nowadays.

Old school forums were still social media, they just hadn’t been labeled as such yet. Some of my most toxic moments as a teenager/young adult occurred on forums. I had to leave them entirely. Praise the lord I left them when I did because some of my old friends said some rather stupid stuff on forums and are paying for it now.

FWIW, I'm not objecting HN or forums are not social media.

Rather that nowadays, social media have more mechanics that are typical: * presence of brands * influencers * algorithmic bubble filters * attention hoarding

Of course, forums and HN are social media and can be toxic as well.

I may he wrong and I'm happy to read more, but I hope I clarified where I draw the line with what (I think) is typical and expected of social media, from a business/industry perspective.

Re: Taking a break from social media makes you happier and less anxious

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post #40

I quit social media entirely many years ago: it felt like quitting smoking, just less difficult but the same level of benefits. I also shifted how I get news: I don't read or watch "event-oriented" journalism (aka, reporting) and shifted entirely to analysis (through radio and press). The biggest win is that the timeframe is different, as analysis requires perspective, opposite to reporting which only focuses on the…

This is social media. (Not to detract entirely from your statement with my pendantics.)

I don’t think it is because I can’t follow people (can I??). At least my use of it is only hitting the homepage and the occasional search. More similar to a newspaper with better comments. I agree that HN is social as in community but “social media” has a very tainted definition in my mind that mostly involves following a predefined set of people, creating all kinds of positive and negative side effects. HN belongs more to forums in my mind. I wouldn’t consider forums or IRC social media, at the same time I understand other persons might see it differently.

Re: Taking a break from social media makes you happier and less anxious

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post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the kind of stuff that ends up filling my news feed. None of it has ever had any real effect on my life but it all seems to get equal feed real estate on reddit/twitter

Unsure about that.. I don't think Australia has been isolated from the rippling effects of price increases of grain and energy, that is one effect of the war in Ukraine. Probably not as much affected as many other countries, but I think you would still import products from countries where these effects are significant, and which have had to raise their prices due to it.

But none of that is likely to be actionable information for them.

It's like hearing that meteor is going to kill us all tomorrow and there is nothing you can do. Sure, it's going to affect you, but your life isn't going to be any better if you know.

It's just pointless anxiety.

Re: Taking a break from social media makes you happier and less anxious

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Whilst I've taken breaks, indeed quit social media years ago it does somewhat pain me that many services needed are accesable via such platforms and you can send a tweet to the local council all public and they will respond. Send an email - maybe, eventualy, though often not as gets bounced about and phone calls, well they embraced work from home as given my local council opertunity to sell the crown jewls (aka historic building they base out of). So it sadly does seem somewhat a neccesary evil.

FOr me social media needs the ability to censor and filter placed into the hands of the user and let them decide what offends them or not and give them to tools to filter that for their own comfort. Sadly that is kinda lacking and you get the social media's flavout of censoring, which can be biased to the stage of fueling issues.

One question though - has anybody ever taken a break from Hacker News due to content? Me - nope, and doubt many if any who have been that way due to content/engagements. The level of docurum and interactions upon this social media format does attract and enforce a more civil and factual level of discourse that trancends anything your twitters or facebooks etc offer.

So thank you once again Dang for keeping things real.

Re: Taking a break from social media makes you happier and less anxious

#88
Cal Newport's time-block planner saved my career. At the beginning of the pandemic I was struggling to focus at work, like many others. His time-block planner got me back into action and feeling more productive.

https://www.timeblockplanner.com

This video covers how the planner works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eff9h1WYxSo

I love the quick "Shutdown" routine at the end of each day, so I can easily switch back to life outside of work without dragging work thoughts with me.

Re: Taking a break from social media makes you happier and less anxious

#89

At Facebook / Meta, employees often questioned Mark Zuckerberg whenever a study like this came out. Zuckerberg noted that the same held true for news media. Reporters do not like to mention this.

That appears to be a disingenuous argument.

Firstly, traditional news media’s intrusion is not as severe or wide ranging. To give one example, the surge in teenage mental health problems that Facebook and Instagram in particular seem likely to have caused.

Second, there is a very large qualitative difference between social media and traditional media. Social media is monitoring your every action, and adapting to it, and creates a tight feedback loop where you are manipulated into staying engaged and consuming more adverts. That personalised real-time feedback loop, based on giant datasets that are very invasive, is incomparable to traditional media.

Finally, the extent of attention capture by social media cannot be compared to traditional media. This can be observed by simply taking a walk down the high street and seeing how many people are staring at their phones. Traditional media do use apps as a medium, but there aren’t many people who would seriously argue that most of those glued to their screens are likely to be reading an online newspaper and not looking at Instagram, Twitter, or TikTok.

The only doubt I have is whether Zuckerberg actually believes what’s he saying, in order to have a clean conscience, or whether it’s a cynical argument used to reassure his staff.

Re: Taking a break from social media makes you happier and less anxious

#90
post #36

For me, I've found that social media doesn't affect my level of happiness and/or anxiety directly. What it does do, is take up a lot of my time almost imperceptibly - leaving less time for other, more meaningful activities. It makes me feel like I'm running out of time every day, which in turn causes a feeling of anxiety.

Yes, few people probably aren't affected by social media just like smoking & drinking. But from my personal experience many people really feel jealous/unhappy/lonely when they look on false reality. And, those influencer really makes everything worst.

Tabloid magazines that only talk about the rich and celebrities have always been super popular which also makes people depressed. I think this is nothing new with social media.
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