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Re: McDonald’s to Exit from Russia

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Post by scohesc »

samwillis wrote: post #143
avakand wrote: post #119

It seems that McDonald's closed stores that operated directly under their control. As a result, only stores in westert part of Russia were closed (in Moscow, Saint-Petersburg). The stores in Siberia (i.e. Novosibirsk) and in Moscow airports continued operating as usual, as they are working under franchaising. Even the mobile app continued functioning. So not much is going to change, I think. Hell, McDonalds is even o…

I think the suggestion is that they are going to remove the branding rights from the franchise owners “de-Arching” them. So there will be no McDonalds branded restaurants in Russia.

What will McDonalds do if Russian franchises/restaurants just keep using the golden arches, menu item names, etc?

Sure they might taste different - but what is McDonalds' recourse? Not sure they can do anything if they've decided to remove themselves from doing business in Russia. Seems similar in situation to the knock-offs in other countries that McD's doesn't do business in.

Re: McDonald’s to Exit from Russia

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Post by postalrat »

vetinari wrote: post #252
eimrine wrote: post #240

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> Vegetable Oil Absolutely common item on every kitchen > pseudo estrogens in plastics This is 2022, we have to pack our food with some plastic. > Bliss point foods It litery means that your food needs to be yummy.

> This is 2022, we have to pack our food with some plastic. We don't; cardboard packaging for food is pretty common nowadays.

What are they using to bind the paper in that cardboard?

Re: McDonald’s to Exit from Russia

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Post by number6 »

kergonath wrote: post #261
ilammy wrote: post #246

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In Russian "to read diagonally" means "to skim" in English. Like, you don't read left to right, top to bottom, but straight from one corner to the other.

In French as well, FWIW.

French is now in bed with russian? Mont dioaux ;)

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Post by chasd00 »

ARandomerDude wrote: post #265
paradite wrote: post #217

The end of the "Golden Arches theory": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lexus_and_the_Olive_Tree#G...

From the Wiki entry: > when a country has reached an economic development where it has a middle class strong enough to support a McDonald's network, it would become a "McDonald's country", and will not be interested in fighting wars anymore It's amazing how persistent this basic idea is. "Once we reach a certain level of X, we won't fight wars anymore." X can be money, education, scale of war (WWI), etc. but the idea…

it all comes back to ensuring your genes are the most likely to survive. I don't see any economic or political status changing that.

Re: McDonald’s to Exit from Russia

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Post by objectivetruth »

dotancohen wrote: post #282
cbozeman wrote: post #74

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I don't think this is the reasoning at all. I think trying to conduct transactions in a heavily sanctioned nation that's also fighting a war of aggression against a neighbor, and incurring heavy losses, is causing a headache for the bean counters, and it has finally become more trouble than it's worth, financially. These enormous multinational behemoths - as an entity - don't give two shits about the people dying in…

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Fascinating to watch in real-time as somebody tries to convince us that Eastern European nations voluntarily joining NATO over 20 years was "aggression" and poor little Putin had no choice but to rain missiles and shells down on Ukrainian schools and hospitals.

Good luck "debunking" your "myth," comrade!

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Post by lnxg33k1 »

ineedasername wrote: post #225
lnxg33k1 wrote: post #34

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NATO has always been a defensive alliance, a retaliatory deterrence against attacking any one member, especially weaker members that would be easy to pick off. NATO expansion has pretty much always been a reaction to Russian aggression, including the most recent accessions following Russia's takeover of Crimea and now their invasion if the Ukraine. Painting NATO expansion as an aggressive act that forces Russia to re…

I think whataboutism is just a very nice word that is being used more and more in order to retain some sort of moral superiority and no accountability for actions, like we need to use two weights and two measures just otherwise we are whatabouting

No it's not whataboutism it's just to make sure that when we say that Russia is crazy and US is some sort of holy state, we are trusting the wrong people to tell us what is just and correct and what is not

So I am sorry but when the US tries to tell us about criminals and that what it takes to be just, I think only that it is the most criminal country in the history of the world, the only one to drop nuclear bombs on cilivian target cities or killing kids in Iraq and Afghanistan then jailing journalists or try to get them extradited, or spying on citizens of the world or backing israeli regime killing kids and journalists. Just as a way to remember who is telling us to give up everything we have and our stability, to be aware of the interlocutor, somehow.

So at this point, we realise that US is a criminal state pursuing his own interest at the expense of the rest of the world, once we've established that, and that they don't care about human rights and freedom of press, since they support countries against that around the world for their interests, would we give up that?

So when Biden speaks to Europeans saying you need to give up Russian gas for the track record of Russia, why Europeans don't reply that US need to give up its relationship with Saudi Arabia and Israel?

Because the world is not unjust but european leaders are now pursuing US interests at their own expenses, and that is not good

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Post by The_Colonel »

dotancohen wrote: post #282
cbozeman wrote: post #74

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I don't think this is the reasoning at all. I think trying to conduct transactions in a heavily sanctioned nation that's also fighting a war of aggression against a neighbor, and incurring heavy losses, is causing a headache for the bean counters, and it has finally become more trouble than it's worth, financially. These enormous multinational behemoths - as an entity - don't give two shits about the people dying in…

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Thanks for repeating Russian propaganda word for word.

In reality, Ukraine was nowhere close to entering NATO. Not in 2014, not in January 2022.

This wasn't (exclusively) about NATO, but about the gradual general Ukrainian drift towards the west and its institutions. Russia wouldn't be satisfied with Ukraine not entering NATO, it would require returning back into the Russian sphere of influence as its puppet state.

> Russia doesn't want missiles pointed at Moscow from only 500 km away

NATO membership doesn't mean US missiles on the territory. The easternmost nukes are still deployed in Italy, and the eastward expansion of NATO did not make any change in that.

If NATO wanted to place missiles close to Moscow and St. Petersburg, why not do that from Latvia and Estonia? Same or even shorter distance than from Ukraine. (but NATO didn't do that and there's still not NATO base in the Baltics)

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Post by thriftwy »

ineedasername wrote: post #266
thriftwy wrote: post #189

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Do you think you are capable of listening to those countries? Take Kazakhstan. It's a country which is in several bloc-like agreements with Russia: СНГ, ОДКБ, ЕАЕС. How are you going to listen to it? I will tell you how the West do it every time: You are going to find some opposition crackpot who will badmouth Russia and crap on Kazakhstan regime, and you will ignore all other voices. The one who may as well be on so…

I don't have to understand those countries to believe they should have the right to make their own sovereign decisions. Let Russia try to influence by diplomatic means, let the west do the same, let the country decide what it wants. You just seem to be arguing that these countries should be Russian proxies instead of Western proxies, which is absurd. Let them be neither. Russia's problem is that it's primary mode of…

Almost all of the countries that you have listed depend on Russia economically to the same extent as on the West, or in greater fashion.

"Let them be neither" does not work, as demonstrated by the NATO expansion.

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Post by reedjosh »

eimrine wrote: post #285
reedjosh wrote: post #257

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> Absolutely common item on every kitchen Not my kitchen. We buy meat from a farm and render the fat trimmings to cook with. That wasn't your point though. Still, to actually refute your point I'd say that doesn't make it healthy, and my original point was about the many ways McDonald's food is unhealthy. > This is 2022, we have to pack our food with some plastic. No, we don't. Wax paper works fine. The farm meat I g…

I also use to fry on fat, if there is enough fat on my kitchen. But usually it finishes very fast after appearing. Thank you for wax paper advice, I use it for salting a red fish using my friend's recipe who is a sailor. Will try to find some food with this kind of package. > literally designed to keep you eating more and feeling hungry shortly thereafter How on Earth is possible to design a high-calorie food (this i…

> How on Earth is possible to design a high-calorie food (this is a promice of MacDo) which makes you feel hungry shortly? For me it works like a regular food.

Sugars and refined flour does this.

The foods spike your blood sugar and then cause a crash.

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Post by severino »

throwaway290 wrote: post #35
lillecarl wrote: post #22

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I don't think McDonalds & Co are such a big health-negative in other countries as it is in the US. I've never met someone who's obese from eating Maccas in Sweden, they're obese because they eat more calories than they burn. Calling a food unhealty is quite silly to me, anything is unhealty if you consume it in unhealty amounts. The above statements obviously exclude things like cyanide and other things designed to k…

IMO McDonalds was among the healthier and reliable choices when it comes to eating out in Russia. I could be reasonably sure I won't get food poisoning at a McD, for one.

Was that because McDonalds is healthier in Russia than elsewhere, or just because the rest of Russian restaurants food is even worse?
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