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McDonald’s to Exit from Russia

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Re: McDonald’s to Exit from Russia

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> Many Russian assets have already been seized, among them the Gazprom subsidiary in Germany Most Russian assets have been frozen, not seized. The German subsidiary made news for being an exception in that Germany took control of the subsidiary. But it’s still Gazprom’s property.

Are all of those mega yachts getting boarded not considered seized?

That is my understanding. The property still belongs to the owners

Re: McDonald’s to Exit from Russia

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Has Putin not seen the fate of Beria in the film "The Death Of Stalin"? How long will it take before the Red Army takes him out into the back yard and shoots him?

Edit: Usual Putinista downvotes. Get a life. Why do you support this evil man?

Re: McDonald’s to Exit from Russia

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Wow thatt's pretty rough. Just recently I saw some old footage of when Russia opened to the West and all those 90's kids in Russia going to the first Mc Donalds opening there. Then again McDonalds is a good example of a lot of things that are just plain wrong about western culture... so no loss for Russia I guess.

Regardless of what people think about McDonalds, this is a very symbolic move. People in the west remember those 90s scenes on TV of McDonalds opening in Russia, and it was symbolic of Russia opening up and a new prosperous relationship with the west. I would not be surprised if the US government nudged McDonalds to exit swiftly and publicly like this because the optics are very clear: Russia is going backwards.

Re: McDonald’s to Exit from Russia

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> The Company intends to initiate the process of “de-Arching” those restaurants, which entails no longer using the McDonald’s name, logo, branding, and menu, though the Company will continue to retain its trademarks in Russia. Obviously they'd want to keep the trademark, otherwise they have no way to prevent those sold restaurants from "re-Arching" after the "de-Arching" :)

> Obviously they'd want to keep the trademark, otherwise they have no way to prevent those sold restaurants from "re-Arching" after the "de-Arching" :) If a country has gone sufficiently rogue to invade a neighbour, respect for property[0][1] - and by extension trademarks - appears to matter very little, at least for now? [0] https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/16/business/russia-aircraft-... [1] https://www.bbc.com/news…

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Re: McDonald’s to Exit from Russia

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Iraq was not a NATO operation, hence the term "coalition of the willing."

This is laughable on the same level as Putin when he denied that Russian troops are in Crimea. "These are just some people who bought their uniforms in the military store" "That was not a NATO operation but an operation carried out by NATO countries" Meanwhile for the whole world, NATO has waged war in Iraq. Yugoslavia before that. Lybia after that.

Out of NATO, British and Polish soldiers participated during the invasion phase. It was not NATO invasion by any reasonable definition.

Re: McDonald’s to Exit from Russia

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> then maybe Gazprom's pipelines won't be Russian anymore. Germany already took over control of Gazprom Germania, with tanks and pipelines within Germany. So that isn't much of a threat. https://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/DE/Fachthemen/Elektrizitaet... (PDF, German language)

Not quite. It is still the property of Gazprom, but the control is exercised by the German authorities at the moment to ensure proper operations.

That is a legal nuisance. Operational control is with the government. Profits (if there are any) won't be paid out. Thus who is listed as owner doesn't matter for any practical purposes. It however allows to give back control in case the situation is cleared. But that doesn't seem likely, thus the company will slowly be dismantled.

Re: McDonald’s to Exit from Russia

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It seems that McDonald's closed stores that operated directly under their control. As a result, only stores in westert part of Russia were closed (in Moscow, Saint-Petersburg). The stores in Siberia (i.e. Novosibirsk) and in Moscow airports continued operating as usual, as they are working under franchaising. Even the mobile app continued functioning. So not much is going to change, I think. Hell, McDonalds is even o…

I think the suggestion is that they are going to remove the branding rights from the franchise owners “de-Arching” them. So there will be no McDonalds branded restaurants in Russia.

Could they actually do that if the “lease” contract expires? (if that is the correct term for a franchise).

Re: McDonald’s to Exit from Russia

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This is a surprisingly well-written, engaging corporate statement. Most statements are pretty bland and purely to the point but after reading this I thought I was reading news coverage of their exit not their own statement.

In Germany this is called "Gratismut" (gratis bravery). It's the current thing to hate Russia, so they don't lose anything by doing a passionate write-up about it. McDonald's also wants to convince you that they have any values, but in reality they have no problem with horrendous human rights violations in other countries.

What changed here of course is that after Putin gave Aeroloft the go ahead to seize aircraft they were leasing, western business lost any appetite for the Russian market. When your assets can be taken over at any moment and its encouraged by the state, its best to cut your losses.

A similar but more drastic example are the various communist revolutions in the 20th century. It was standard practice for the new governments to cancel any debts or obligations the previous government had and seize all sorts of foreign owned assets in country. That inevitably destroyed its diplomatic relations with many nations for decades.

So as you note, its not because McDonald's or any other corporation has morals, they are amoral entities. Its all just business and right now business in Russia is bad.

Re: McDonald’s to Exit from Russia

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McDonalds was one of the prime buyers of local meat and other agricultural goods. Them leaving the market = huge loses for farmers and companies. They have goods, they don't have a big buyer. Not to mention all McD's staff. They will sell their business and instead of McD you will get another just food brand but with broken logistics, business processes and so on.

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