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Not a single car was sold in Shanghai last month

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Re: Not a single car was sold in Shanghai last month

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Well, might not have been zero. Might just be the official records to ensure the state doesn’t crack down

I figure this is the real reason. Which dealership would be stupid enough to say they had sold a car in a month that they were officially lockdown. The retribution would be swift and harsh. Could also be zero because everyone obeyed the order.

Stuff is pretty harsh then, regardless of reason for 0 in records.

Re: Not a single car was sold in Shanghai last month

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Is it known what variant(s) led to this outbreak and lockdown?

Omicron one or another, but the lockdown is due to China's ruthless zero cases policy; they've closed down ports, cities, etc to curtail the virus. I think it WAS successful for a while; afaik they didn't get much Delta cases or deaths, and their economy could keep going while the rest of the world was going into lockdown.

Personally, it's going to take a lot more failure for me to be convinced that averting ~4 million deaths was somehow misguided in the long-term. It's interesting how much American media is trying to convince me otherwise as of the past few months.

Re: Not a single car was sold in Shanghai last month

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> Almost all dealerships in the city were closed during the month Which is why no-one bought any cars wtf is this article ...

The article is talking about how extreme the lockdown is. As other commenters have pointed out, it's normal to expect some non-zero number of sales, so when there's an exact zero, it's very odd. As an example, notice how they said "almost all dealerships" and not "all dealerships". Non-zero numbers are normal. Absolute zero is a very strange signal.

> As an example, notice how they said "almost all dealerships" and not "all dealerships".

There are probably some dealer facilities open because ambulances, police cars and food delivery vehicles still need servicing.

Re: Not a single car was sold in Shanghai last month

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When people wonder why some folks are skeptical of climate activism, remember there are people celebrating locking population centers in their homes and being barred from private transportation and then reflect a bit on why people who are generally against authoritarianism aren't gung-ho about taking environmental concerns to their logical state ran solutions.

There are insane people on pretty much every side of every issue. That doesn't seem to justify blithely continuing to destroy the world.

Re: Not a single car was sold in Shanghai last month

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I did not realize there is such a strict lockdown even now. Somehow missed that news cycle. However that makes me wonder if the other countries in the world like India and major parts of the US even test now. I mean unless it’s absolutely clear it’s covid they probably don’t test and go on with their lives.

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Re: Not a single car was sold in Shanghai last month

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Omicron one or another, but the lockdown is due to China's ruthless zero cases policy; they've closed down ports, cities, etc to curtail the virus. I think it WAS successful for a while; afaik they didn't get much Delta cases or deaths, and their economy could keep going while the rest of the world was going into lockdown.

Personally, it's going to take a lot more failure for me to be convinced that averting ~4 million deaths was somehow misguided in the long-term. It's interesting how much American media is trying to convince me otherwise as of the past few months.

About 10 million people die per year in China.

At some point when thinking about the value of preventing death you need to introduce QALYs and then you need to think about the the duration, impact and breadth of lockdowns.

Re: Not a single car was sold in Shanghai last month

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Does anybody know what the situation is in the rest of China? I hear there are a couple of strict lockdowns in other cities, and some districts of Beijing. China has in the past justified their harsh measures because the relative majority could live without Covid restrictions (and illness and deaths of course). It would be interesting to see what portion of the population is on lockdown, but it is hard to find good s…

95% of the country is basically fine. I have a few friends in cities like Chongqing and Nanjing and their only issues are travel restrictions between regions.

Re: Not a single car was sold in Shanghai last month

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post #43

I did not realize there is such a strict lockdown even now. Somehow missed that news cycle. However that makes me wonder if the other countries in the world like India and major parts of the US even test now. I mean unless it’s absolutely clear it’s covid they probably don’t test and go on with their lives.

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Eh? there's a story about it showing up every couple of days in the Washington Post, both news and opinion pieces. As the poster case for anti-"zero covid" stuff, it is being talked about a lot.

Maybe it's not on the evening news in the US, but it's actually OK for every single thing about the world to be covered breathlessly for every single person on the planet every night.

Re: Not a single car was sold in Shanghai last month

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post #43

I did not realize there is such a strict lockdown even now. Somehow missed that news cycle. However that makes me wonder if the other countries in the world like India and major parts of the US even test now. I mean unless it’s absolutely clear it’s covid they probably don’t test and go on with their lives.

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https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2022/05/14/shanghai-covid-r...

Not exactly ignored. CNN has regular reports on China's Covid-19 response.

Re: Not a single car was sold in Shanghai last month

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post #43

I did not realize there is such a strict lockdown even now. Somehow missed that news cycle. However that makes me wonder if the other countries in the world like India and major parts of the US even test now. I mean unless it’s absolutely clear it’s covid they probably don’t test and go on with their lives.

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Excuse you?

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/05/12/asia/china-leaving-shangh...

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/06/chinas-covid-lockdowns-hit-m...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/16/shanghai-to-en...

The "MSM media" is not ignoring it. Btw, I had to google the term because I wasn't sure what you meant by MSM. It stands for Mainstream Media.

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