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Not a single car was sold in Shanghai last month

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Re: Not a single car was sold in Shanghai last month

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Does anybody know what the situation is in the rest of China? I hear there are a couple of strict lockdowns in other cities, and some districts of Beijing. China has in the past justified their harsh measures because the relative majority could live without Covid restrictions (and illness and deaths of course). It would be interesting to see what portion of the population is on lockdown, but it is hard to find good sources in English.

Re: Not a single car was sold in Shanghai last month

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Is it known what variant(s) led to this outbreak and lockdown?

Omicron one or another, but the lockdown is due to China's ruthless zero cases policy; they've closed down ports, cities, etc to curtail the virus.

I think it WAS successful for a while; afaik they didn't get much Delta cases or deaths, and their economy could keep going while the rest of the world was going into lockdown.

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People still use cars. In many of these foreign countries people often just buy them as a status symbol. That none were sold is an indication of a serious economic problem.

Is it? There was a ~30 day lockdown. China does strict lockdowns relative to the US or Europe. Car purchases could just be deferred a month, so there would be an economic impact, but the one-month blip wouldn't be indicative of any long-term problem.

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There are rumors than President Xi has been using the coronavirus outbreak as a convenient excuse to knock the "Shanghai clique" down a few pegs. Supposedly he thought the local Shanghai leaders were getting a bit too popular, and insufficiently deferential to Beijing. He's terrified of seeing any alternative power centers develop.

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I mean no new cars on the road, discutable, but the situation is far from "good"; people are locked into their house. I mean the pragmatist in me says this is what they should have done everywhere and the corona would not have been an issue, but it's draconian and infringes on base liberties. Removing someone's freedom of movement is one of the primary legal punishments handed out, and people's freedoms of movement a…

Even if we had done that everywhere, coronavirus would still have been an issue due to wild animal reservoirs. Eventually someone will catch the virus from a deer or bat or whatever and then the whole cycle restarts. Lockdowns have always been a pointless form of collective punishment.

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Is it known what variant(s) led to this outbreak and lockdown?

I thought it was the Omicron BA.1 variant that caused a surge in the west too. But China is more densely populated, with a less vaccinated population, especially the elderly, and a less effective vaccine.

From what I understand, their vaccination rates are quite low. This is due to the "social contract" of government lockdowns. The people accept that there will be strict quarantine procedures for positive cases, and so they feel more free to go about life as normal, and likewise avoid the vaccine.

Re: Not a single car was sold in Shanghai last month

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> Almost all dealerships in the city were closed during the month Which is why no-one bought any cars wtf is this article ...

The article is talking about how extreme the lockdown is. As other commenters have pointed out, it's normal to expect some non-zero number of sales, so when there's an exact zero, it's very odd.

As an example, notice how they said "almost all dealerships" and not "all dealerships". Non-zero numbers are normal. Absolute zero is a very strange signal.

Re: Not a single car was sold in Shanghai last month

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There are rumors than President Xi has been using the coronavirus outbreak as a convenient excuse to knock the "Shanghai clique" down a few pegs. Supposedly he thought the local Shanghai leaders were getting a bit too popular, and insufficiently deferential to Beijing. He's terrified of seeing any alternative power centers develop.

>There are rumors >Supposedly

I'd rather prefer people to have an opinion and share it, instead of sharing rumours and "supposedly" theories without sourcing them.

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