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Re: Ask HN: Can you share websites that are pushing the utility of browsers forward?

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We built https://cleanfeed.net/ which is an online studio for pro audio. Chances are if you enjoy radio, podcasts or movies, especially during the pandemic, that you've listened to something produced using Cleanfeed. In many cases you wouldn't even realise that co-host or guest is remote.

Just dropped zencastr, looks like you’re comparable.

Kind of

Re: Ask HN: Can you share websites that are pushing the utility of browsers forward?

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The Telegram web client uses all sorts of features and a reimplementation of React.

> The project incorporates lots of technologically advanced features, modern Web APIs and techniques: WebSockets, Web Workers and WebAssembly, multi-level caching and PWA, voice recording and media streaming, cryptography and raw binary data operations, optimistic and progressive interfaces, complicated CSS/Canvas/SVG animations, reactive data streams, and so much more.

https://github.com/Ajaxy/telegram-tt

The dev is pretty much a genius.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry Your browser does not support Web Assembly. Please upgrade your web browser. I recommend downloading Chrome. Its the latest MS Edge, but a handy trick you might be interested in is to use detectable bugs to fingerprint a webbrowser. So Internet Explorer 6 might have a browser detectable javascript bug that 8 didnt have, or a bug might exist in IE but not firefox and if someone changed their browser agent ie fir…

Do you have WASM enabled? A cursory search indicates it's not on by default

I know its off, I have lots of things switched off, my point was the message wasnt that useful and one way you could improve the message to guide potential visitors to help them switch it on, if they wanted to, was to use the bug detection to really test if the browser is what it say is before giving the guidance to switch on stuff in a browser. Over engineered perhaps, but still valid.

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I've seen a trend in popular open source hobby electronics projects in the last year developing progressive web apps to replace their native apps, enabled by the addition of WebSerial in Chrome/Firefox. For example, ESC-Configurator in the drone world and ESPHome and Tasmota in the home automation world. Arduino even has a web IDE that you can program your Arduino from now.

For some reason though, Google decided WebSerial was too insecure for Android and disabled it, and Apple never implemented it in Safari. WebBluetooth is a thing as well but I think Bluetooth is too much of a pain, I haven't seen anyone use it yet.

Re: Ask HN: Can you share websites that are pushing the utility of browsers forward?

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I've seen a trend in popular open source hobby electronics projects in the last year developing progressive web apps to replace their native apps, enabled by the addition of WebSerial in Chrome/Firefox. For example, ESC-Configurator in the drone world and ESPHome and Tasmota in the home automation world. Arduino even has a web IDE that you can program your Arduino from now. For some reason though, Google decided WebS…

Shoutout to WLED[0]. When I was able to flash my ESP with the latest version just from the browser I was kind of blown away. I was blindsided by it even though I have a lot of ESP projects myself and consider myself 'into the space'.

[0] https://kno.wled.ge/

Re: Ask HN: Can you share websites that are pushing the utility of browsers forward?

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The Telegram web client uses all sorts of features and a reimplementation of React. > The project incorporates lots of technologically advanced features, modern Web APIs and techniques: WebSockets, Web Workers and WebAssembly, multi-level caching and PWA, voice recording and media streaming, cryptography and raw binary data operations, optimistic and progressive interfaces, complicated CSS/Canvas/SVG animations, reac…

any idea why they reimplemented react? to reduce bundle size?

Re: Ask HN: Can you share websites that are pushing the utility of browsers forward?

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We are building https://studio.foxglove.dev/ which is a visualization tool for robotics. Click “Explore sample data” to see a demo. Uses WebGL and some WebAssembly.

The left nav and menu is reminiscent of VSCode. I'm not accusing the project of plagiarism. I think more standardization, especially with menus, instead of reinventing the UX wheel for every project is a good thing. Is the code for the left nav widget open source? I want to use it, too.

VS Code is derived from the open source codebase (but note the official binaries and some other extensions are closed! Notably the remote extensions and some of the debugger stuff needed for the C# and python extensions), but I don't believe individual components of it are published in a consumable format anywhere

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The Telegram web client uses all sorts of features and a reimplementation of React. > The project incorporates lots of technologically advanced features, modern Web APIs and techniques: WebSockets, Web Workers and WebAssembly, multi-level caching and PWA, voice recording and media streaming, cryptography and raw binary data operations, optimistic and progressive interfaces, complicated CSS/Canvas/SVG animations, reac…

I hate to even ask, but for a security-focused product, is that a good thing?

I think there is a valid argument “there is no good video experience on web otherwise” but that’s still a long list of less-than-fully-mature dependencies.

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