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See's Candies is Warren Buffett’s ‘dream’ investment

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Re: See's Candies is Warren Buffett’s ‘dream’ investment

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> Buffett cautioned Huggins to never sacrifice quality for profit. Funny how that's the complete opposite of another celebrated investor: Jorge Paulo Leman from Brazil's 3G Capital Partners (Heinz, Popeye's, Anheuser-Busch, Tim Horton's, Bugger King, etc). Their game is to buy brands with very strong customer loyalty and slash costs (and quality). In the long run they'll destroy the brand but until then will make eno…

And yet Buffett decided to become business partners with them: https://finance.yahoo.com/video/warren-buffett-kraft-heinz-p...

The two strategies don't seem that different, one lowers quality the other massively hikes prices. Customers are getting ripped off either way.

Re: See's Candies is Warren Buffett’s ‘dream’ investment

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Before the fast food brands revitalized Burger King (and somewhat Carl’s Jr.) were famously a bit of a cut above in quality Yep. And it put one of my relatives on the unemployment line. He was responsible for importing cheap meat from Australia and New Zealand for Burger King and a bunch of prisons. In the early 90's there was a brief wave of "made in USA" pride that swept America, and Burger King changed suppliers a…

I remember the kangaroo meat scandal from that time, forget who it was, maybe Jack in the Box?

Kangaroo meat is great and way more sustainable than beef. I'd eat a kangaroo burger any day.

Re: See's Candies is Warren Buffett’s ‘dream’ investment

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That isn't their strategy. The largest part of their strategy has been cutting central costs (which are, not coincidentally, obscenely large at consumer goods companies). That has been their strategy since the early days. The cost-cutting that you are seeing across the industry started because 3G exposed the fact that a lot of companies were running with incredible amounts of fat. But during that time, you have also…

By "fat" I assume that you mean "people with jobs that pay enough to let them buy things like expensive chocolates ?"

I don't believe it's smart to have people on the payroll just because. If they're not producing value for a business, then a business should remove them. Yes, it does suck for the person getting fired, but that's life, they'll find a different job.

Re: See's Candies is Warren Buffett’s ‘dream’ investment

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> Buffett cautioned Huggins to never sacrifice quality for profit. Funny how that's the complete opposite of another celebrated investor: Jorge Paulo Leman from Brazil's 3G Capital Partners (Heinz, Popeye's, Anheuser-Busch, Tim Horton's, Bugger King, etc). Their game is to buy brands with very strong customer loyalty and slash costs (and quality). In the long run they'll destroy the brand but until then will make eno…

What that company did to Tim Horton’s was basically an act of war against Canada.

I'm from NY so I consider myself a bagel snob. The bagels at Tim Hortons in Ontario are worse quality than anything I've ever had in the states.

They are similar to packaged bagels from the supermarket

Re: See's Candies is Warren Buffett’s ‘dream’ investment

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>Vitamins used to be priced according to manufacturing cost. Slowly, the low-cost vitamins have been up-priced to match the expensive ones. Vitamin C is about $10/Kg in bulk, but about $100/Kg at a US drugstore. How does one even know if the Vitamin C is Vitamin C? There is no government agency that confirms supplements and vitamins are what they say they are, nor are there penalties. The only thing I have heard of i…

Stick to brands that have a reputation for quality worth defending. It's no guarantee, but you want a brand that perhaps charges a bit more because of their long track record of quality. The longer and more solid their track record of quality, the more motivation they will have to make sure that reputation stays intact. That's about the best you can do.

I stick to stores that I can trust. Costco very much can. Walmart maybe. Amazon nope who knows what your actually getting.

Re: See's Candies is Warren Buffett’s ‘dream’ investment

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What that company did to Tim Horton’s was basically an act of war against Canada.

I'm from NY so I consider myself a bagel snob. The bagels at Tim Hortons in Ontario are worse quality than anything I've ever had in the states. They are similar to packaged bagels from the supermarket

Tims has gone downhill since they got bought out by an American holding company.

Re: See's Candies is Warren Buffett’s ‘dream’ investment

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It's the slow and steady increase in prices that made it so profitable. About 5x over inflation during Buffett ownership. This has happened to far too many items over the last few decades. Most of the things drugstores sell are cheap to make, but have steadily increased in price in the US over the last few decades. Vitamins used to be priced according to manufacturing cost. Slowly, the low-cost vitamins have been up-…

My favorite is Whey powder which often sells for 10x the price of powdered milk.

Re: See's Candies is Warren Buffett’s ‘dream’ investment

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post #12

It's the slow and steady increase in prices that made it so profitable. About 5x over inflation during Buffett ownership. This has happened to far too many items over the last few decades. Most of the things drugstores sell are cheap to make, but have steadily increased in price in the US over the last few decades. Vitamins used to be priced according to manufacturing cost. Slowly, the low-cost vitamins have been up-…

Thought the article points out Berkshire Hathaway owns 5.6% of Apple, Apple represents almost a 50% of Berkshire's holdings. If you ask me, quite a concentrated portfolio risk for a fund that is perceived to be stable. But anyways - in regards to products & inflation... "...our research shows that Apple have risen iPhone prices 26% higher than local inflation rates. " https://www.self.inc/info/iphone-price-index/

This surprised me because I think I remember reading Buffett says re-insurance is the backstay of his profit, and investment.

Re: See's Candies is Warren Buffett’s ‘dream’ investment

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post #12

It's the slow and steady increase in prices that made it so profitable. About 5x over inflation during Buffett ownership. This has happened to far too many items over the last few decades. Most of the things drugstores sell are cheap to make, but have steadily increased in price in the US over the last few decades. Vitamins used to be priced according to manufacturing cost. Slowly, the low-cost vitamins have been up-…

My favorite is Whey powder which often sells for 10x the price of powdered milk.

milk powder is only 7% whey.

Re: See's Candies is Warren Buffett’s ‘dream’ investment

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I feel like BK used to be a lot better back in the 2000s but that could just be fond memories.

My guess is it is because that is the era when BK really leaned into the McDonalds sized chip on their shoulder. So, kinda like the petty thrills that the "console wars" had.

It's still probably better than McDonald's, but the bar is pretty low there. Full disclosure, I sold the QSR stock I'd had for a few years when everything went to shit in 2020 and bought MCD on the same day... I like that McDonald's goes out of the way to supply locally, it seems like a better model for surviving black swan events. Both garbage, but that's the cafeteria choice you get in late stage capitalism.

Still, I watched with some admiration as MCD navigated the local export restrictions on beef in Argentina, and opened cafes there, served only grass fed local beef... then promoted that guy to open cafes in Europe and watched again as they brought hyperlocal beef producers in so you could buy a Charoux burger in Paris. That was deft.

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