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See's Candies is Warren Buffett’s ‘dream’ investment

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Re: See's Candies is Warren Buffett’s ‘dream’ investment

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>Vitamins used to be priced according to manufacturing cost. Slowly, the low-cost vitamins have been up-priced to match the expensive ones. Vitamin C is about $10/Kg in bulk, but about $100/Kg at a US drugstore. How does one even know if the Vitamin C is Vitamin C? There is no government agency that confirms supplements and vitamins are what they say they are, nor are there penalties. The only thing I have heard of i…

The US is very bad at ensuring our food supply is what it claims to be.... you have to trust companies, basically.

Sounds like a pretty clever startup idea. Consumer Reports, but for everything. Then a seal that manufacturers can put on their product that certifies the assay of ingredients. Does a Coke actually have 120 calories? Is a Vitamin actually what it says? Is the bottle actually recycled? Consumer Reports is often opinion based with some quantitative data and they don’t review everything. Is you olive oil actually from Italian olives? Are those organic pears actually organic? Products that get “the seal” can market that fact. And if consumers care enough, they’ll pick products that are certified to be what they say they are. If I am buying high end paint, the water content matters to me for example.

The FDA should really focus entirely on consumer safety only. (It’s not a safety issue if your olive oil is Moroccan rather than Spanish or whatever.) And the FDA doesn’t have any mission to test if that 18/10 stainless steel sink is actually 18/10 stainless for example.

Re: See's Candies is Warren Buffett’s ‘dream’ investment

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Or do your research with companies that have independently assess products

not very many people can afford to do their own research... lab tests for everything you buy?

This is literally how all construction materials are vetted and it works great.

Underwriters Laboratories.

If it were feasible to sue retailers for damages due to fraudulent vitamins, approximately 0% of supplements sold would be fake.

The problem is there isn’t adequate scientific evidence to back the efficacy of any of these supplement which is why they aren’t regulated in the first place.

Re: See's Candies is Warren Buffett’s ‘dream’ investment

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> he says never invest in tech, never ever. He's repeatedly explained that he doesn't invest in tech (well, until recently) because he doesn't understand it will enough, but has he ever told others not to invest in tech?

They are quite smug and judgmental in their annual meetings towards anything they don’t understand.

Re: See's Candies is Warren Buffett’s ‘dream’ investment

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You can't create any monopoly for generic drugs, by definition. Sure you can. If you're the dominant player, you can pay or buy out new entrants. Happens all the time in generic drugs.[1] [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/business/a-huge-overnight...

It happens with a lot of stuff. Chocolate candy bars in gas station kiosks are always the same 5 brands. Anybody _could_ make chocolate bars, but the big players make deals to control retail, so you don't get a choice of other candy bars, in the situation you'd typically buy one. If I control the conditions under which you buy something, I can control what you are going to buy.

Because small chocolate manufacturers don’t have the scale to supply massive distribution companies. An little retail gas stations don’t have any incentive to go make deals with boutique manufacturers. That would be madness for a gas station owner to go to individual manufacturers for specific items. And the manufacturers would hate it. Dealing with hundreds of thousands of small orders would be a logistical pain. That’s the reason their is a distributor layer for those sorts of products. If customers at gas stations started demanding Valrhona chocolate, they’d ask their distributors to start getting it. I’d buy it, but most people at gas stations aren’t going to care about a $10 chocolate bar.

Re: See's Candies is Warren Buffett’s ‘dream’ investment

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That's not last century thinking. You can't create any monopoly for generic drugs, by definition. You're not even forced to buy an an expensive Apple or Google phone. You can buy a 200-300 dollar phone with more than decent specs. They reason why people are running around with 1k phones is because it's a status symbol. It's exactly this century where you can buy anything at manufacturing cost from India or China if y…

Do you have any idea on how I can avoid the excessive interest rate the bank charges on my mortgage? :) Yes I checked, other banks loans are just as expensive. So it seems I'm not able to buy loans at "manufacturing cost" and neither am I able to buy gas or electricity for minimal cost.

Never walk into a BANK and apply for a loan. Use one, or better, a number of mortgage brokers. Make a spreadsheet. Add in all garbage fees. Estimate the life of the loan. Now calculate real APR. Points and garbage fees dominate if you’re going to sell or refinance in a few years.

Re: See's Candies is Warren Buffett’s ‘dream’ investment

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That's not last century thinking. You can't create any monopoly for generic drugs, by definition. You're not even forced to buy an an expensive Apple or Google phone. You can buy a 200-300 dollar phone with more than decent specs. They reason why people are running around with 1k phones is because it's a status symbol. It's exactly this century where you can buy anything at manufacturing cost from India or China if y…

Do you have any idea on how I can avoid the excessive interest rate the bank charges on my mortgage? :) Yes I checked, other banks loans are just as expensive. So it seems I'm not able to buy loans at "manufacturing cost" and neither am I able to buy gas or electricity for minimal cost.

You could get a loan at prime rate if you were a bank. You likely aren’t a bank, so a retail loan is what you get. Prime rate is the interest to the bank. Retail rates are higher because there are costs associated with your loan. Those costs also include the degree of risk to the bank.

Re: See's Candies is Warren Buffett’s ‘dream’ investment

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There is no regulation in supplement selling, except for food safety. You can sell sugar branded as Vitamin C, and if your customers aren't going to sue you for false advertising or something, you won't have any problems. The prelegeri really is retail capture.

> prelegeri Sorry, I’m having trouble tracking down this term. Could you tell me what it means or what it means in this context?

Speculation: Google Translate says it's "lesson" in Romanian; tsimionescu's name might make that make sense.

Possibly connected to https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/praelego#Latin and the form praelegere to 'read before' in Latin, either the same kind of lecture/lesson sense, or about the parent comment "reading 'regulatory capture' before should really be 'retail capture'"?

Re: See's Candies is Warren Buffett’s ‘dream’ investment

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> Buffett cautioned Huggins to never sacrifice quality for profit. Funny how that's the complete opposite of another celebrated investor: Jorge Paulo Leman from Brazil's 3G Capital Partners (Heinz, Popeye's, Anheuser-Busch, Tim Horton's, Bugger King, etc). Their game is to buy brands with very strong customer loyalty and slash costs (and quality). In the long run they'll destroy the brand but until then will make eno…

> Bugger King

Re: See's Candies is Warren Buffett’s ‘dream’ investment

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From http://csinvesting.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Sees_Candi...

“Warren and I raised the prices of See’s Candies a little faster than others might have. There are actually people out there who don’t price everything as high as the market will easily stand. And once you figure that out, it’s like finding money in the street.”

[...] During the same period, the Retail Clerk’s Union attempted to organize the sales force in the stores. See’s since has triumphed in four attempts to organize by the Retail Clerk’s Union, mainly by paying higher than union-scale wages.

[...] At one time, See’s came under attack by a major candy producer from the Midwest. [...] They duplicated our identity and tried to grab out market. Of course, I informed Charlie and Warren about that fact.” Munger said, “If they are infringing on our trade mark in any way, we can go after them.” Stover’s eventually backed off.

Part of See’s competitive advantage is that it is a leader in its market. “In some businesses, the very nature of things is a sort of cascade toward the overwhelming dominance of one firm,” said Munger.

[...] Thus our first lesson: businesses logically are worth far more than net tangible assets when they can be expected to produce earnings on such assets considerably in excess of market rates of return.

[...] “Jack was a life-time friend of mine and an excellent, but somewhat eccentric, businessman... When we were due to close the purchase at Charlie’s office, Jack was late. Finally arriving, he explained that he had been driving around looking for a parking meter with unexpired time.” Far from being annoyed at the delay, says Buffett, he was delighted: “That was a magic moment for me. I knew then that Jack was going to be my kind of manager.”

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