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Steve Yegge: Follow Up to His Accidentally Public Rant

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Re: Steve Yegge: Follow Up to His Accidentally Public Rant

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Post by Maxious »

wlievens wrote: post #21
ot wrote: post #15

His description of presentations to Bezos reminds the infamous BillG reviews http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2006/06/16.html

IIRC there's a similar section in Microserfs but I could be mixing up things.

If we're thinking of the same section, it's the start of the very first chapter which was also published in wired: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/2.01/microserfs_pr.html

Re: Steve Yegge: Follow Up to His Accidentally Public Rant

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Post by OoTheNigerian »

Although it was a great read, to me it lacked a kind of authenticity.

The first Yegge post felt real, authentic, natural and fully charged. This second one although better formatted and edited, lacked something. It just seemed obigatory and bland.

It is rather amazing that you can feel emotions through words.

Or am I the only one thinking this way?

Re: Steve Yegge: Follow Up to His Accidentally Public Rant

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Post by Tyrannosaurs »

OoTheNigerian wrote: post #25

Although it was a great read, to me it lacked a kind of authenticity. The first Yegge post felt real, authentic, natural and fully charged. This second one although better formatted and edited, lacked something. It just seemed obigatory and bland. It is rather amazing that you can feel emotions through words. Or am I the only one thinking this way?

I think you're being harsh.

I think it was probably more considered but I'm guessing that everything he's written since THAT post has been more considered - it would be a completely natural reaction to having accidentally laid yourself bare. After all whom amongst us having accidentally forwarded an e-mail to the wrong person hasn't got a little more careful about what we say for a while afterwards?

But I still think it sounds genuine and honest, just a little more polished.

Re: Steve Yegge: Follow Up to His Accidentally Public Rant

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Post by code_duck »

redthrowaway wrote: post #14
david927 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, that was just polite talk. This isn't new -- this has been a glaring issue for a while. And if they were serious about it, Brin wouldn't have replied so flippantly. Google is just a one product company (with Gmail being the exception that proves the rule) lacking the humility and gravitas to be more.

Android, Youtube, and Maps aren't products?

People tell me Search is popular, also.

Re: Steve Yegge: Follow Up to His Accidentally Public Rant

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Post by calibraxis »

cavalcade wrote: post #6

Is it me or does this read like a big ass-kissing of Bezos after he tore him apart in the accidentally leaked memo? Not saying it isnt true but...

It's "professionalism". An ideology — an ism — that means not questioning/criticizing certain things. (At least not publicly, and often not even mentally either.) Yegge has a questioning mind and is communicative, but understands the limits that the ism places on him.

For hacking this ideology, Disciplined Minds by Jeff Schmidt is a good intro. (http://disciplined-minds.com)

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