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You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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Post by sizzle »

HumanReadable wrote: post #430

My god there are many people in this comment thread who trivialise weight loss, clearly having never done it themselves. I'm a healthy weight, do heavy workouts 5 days a week and am in very good shape. When I cut my body fat down to ~10%, I go through hell in terms of hunger. There's not a minute I'm not thinking about how hungry I am, and how much I want to eat. I'm completely unable to do productive work, spending…

How do you have time to do 5 times a week? You must not have young kids with special needs I take it?

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Post by netmonk »

CuriousSkeptic wrote: post #235
csours wrote: post #73

I weigh 350 pounds. I'm very obese. I know this. When I was a teenager, I looked at people who weighed 300+ pounds and though, how do you get that way. Don't you realize that you are gaining weight? Don't you know that you just have to eat less to lose weight? Anyway, now I realize that I am hungry. It never goes away unless I eat a significant amount of food. My body told me to eat, so I ate. It doesn't even take th…

WHO recently released a report on obesity in europe[1] Stressing, among other things, that obesity is a chronic disease starting very early in life, indeed even before conception, and cannot be treated as an individual failing. They also point out that health professionals should focus not on weight loss, but on life long prevention of comorbidities. To which end various treatment options are available. Weight loss m…

WHO will do everything and spread as much lies and stupid study to keep the half adult on hearth which are overweight and obese as captive costumers to bigpharma industry and industrialised food industry. So basically using them as a valid reference is stupid.

Re: You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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Post by sizzle »

csours wrote: post #73

I weigh 350 pounds. I'm very obese. I know this. When I was a teenager, I looked at people who weighed 300+ pounds and though, how do you get that way. Don't you realize that you are gaining weight? Don't you know that you just have to eat less to lose weight? Anyway, now I realize that I am hungry. It never goes away unless I eat a significant amount of food. My body told me to eat, so I ate. It doesn't even take th…

You will not die over night if you restrict calories, if you read the article you would have saw what the author wrote about the Minnesota starvation study. This tells me you have not ever tried to restrict calories and you lack the disciple or mental fortitude to cut out low density, high calorie foods such as the “cake” every week you referenced. Why not try replacing the junk food cake with steamed broccoli and fruit??

I’m sorry but I ballooned to 250 during COVID lockdown and am back to a healthy weight by lifting heavy in the squat rack (starting strength + 5x5) and eating nutritious foods at a deficit.

Until you try this or try and determine you have a medical condition and seek treatment (hyperthyroidism), you get 0 sympathy from me. Consider this some tough love from someone who put in the hard work to turn their life around.

I believe in you, please try change your mentality you are limiting yourself from any progress in weight loss and can only blame yourself.

“Anyway, now I realize that I am hungry. It never goes away unless I eat a significant amount of food. My body told me to eat, so I ate.”

Hunger =/ I NEED to eat to make this feeling of discomfort go away

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Post by yakak »

lr4444lr wrote: post #349
yakak wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a phenomenon that many island populations have abnormally high levels of morbid obesity. This comes from the huge advantage of having any genetic disposition to better store more fat/energy in a situation where more can not readily be obtained by increased hunting range, etc.

Which? The only case I heard of was the archipelago in thr pacific where the lands and water were so polluted from colonial agriculture that they couldn't eat their ancestral foods, and had to rely heavily on imports of canned and prepared foods.

Most pacific islands are high up on obesity rates so one pollution incident is not an explanation:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_the_Pacific

If you follow the "see also" from that article studies find the genetic factors towards becoming obese in a favorable environment to be different in different ethnic groups, from 6-85%.

So a theory that fits the statistics is that colonialism brought in a favorable diet for weight gain to everywhere(?) but the percentage of people who became obese when subjected to a favorable diet was largely a factor of local genetics, genes most useful in an unfavorable environment did well and put the peoples in those places at the top of the list for obesity rates.

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Post by bestouff »

csours wrote: post #73

I weigh 350 pounds. I'm very obese. I know this. When I was a teenager, I looked at people who weighed 300+ pounds and though, how do you get that way. Don't you realize that you are gaining weight? Don't you know that you just have to eat less to lose weight? Anyway, now I realize that I am hungry. It never goes away unless I eat a significant amount of food. My body told me to eat, so I ate. It doesn't even take th…

You're not really hungry, you're a sugar addict.

I know that doesn't solve the problem. But try treating this as an addiction, it will help.

Re: You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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Post by bosie »

rnd420_69 wrote: post #75
bavell wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> To lose weight you have to do a lot more exercise than you think consistently. And you have to eat a lot less than you think. Exercise doesn't help very much, it's really all about diet. Plus if you are exercising a lot, you'll feel hungier and it'll be harder mentally to not eat more to compensate.

I lost 60lbs in about a year almost exclusively based around a large amount of exercise. My diet was bad and I was eating far above 2000kcal on many days. I just exercised a lot. 1h of fairly intense cardio at least 6 days a week, though I would always round up to the next 10 min mark and do more like 70 or 80 min per day. Some days I would order pizza or something and some dessert in the evening when I knew this wou…

Are you at all worried that your eating habits/patterns haven't changed and you are compensating with lots of exercise? It seems to work great for weight loss but at some point you will plateau and maintanance seems difficult that way?

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Post by pnt12 »

csours wrote: post #73

I weigh 350 pounds. I'm very obese. I know this. When I was a teenager, I looked at people who weighed 300+ pounds and though, how do you get that way. Don't you realize that you are gaining weight? Don't you know that you just have to eat less to lose weight? Anyway, now I realize that I am hungry. It never goes away unless I eat a significant amount of food. My body told me to eat, so I ate. It doesn't even take th…

> There is a very good chance that someone is writing a reply with some suggestion as to how I should eat so that I'm not hungry.

I will write about a personal experience that has nothing to do with selecting different foods - intermittent fasting.

First I thought this was a torture people put themselves up to. Then a few friends tried it, said you get used to it, and this made me curious. I used to say black coffee was torture, until I stuck with it for a week and now I hate sugar in it - an eye opener that what I thought was an absolute truth about my preferences could be turned around with so easily.

So I tried intermittent fasting. The first few days sucked, I was uncomfortable and moody in the morning, and starving by the time of lunch. Then I got used to it, didn't feel hungry anymore and stuck with it for a year - lost 10 kgs whike barely* thinking about it.

* I didn't lose weight for the first month, then I realized I was over compensating with big meals and eating more junk (believing the fasting would compensate it - it didn't). After I got back to my regular habits when eating, the diet was a breeze.

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Post by pnt12 »

jimmydoreornot wrote: post #232

While correct and useful advice for some people, this advice is useless for many (I suspect most) overweight and obese people. I'm on the border of overweight/obese. I can lose weight if I focus on losing weight. I've dropped from 100kg to 74kg and back. I've gone back down to 91kg and back. How? Eating less, of course. By counting calories. But here is the problem. Anything below 95kg and my body and mind is hyper a…

How long do those thoughts last? I used to eat a lot of snacks past dinner, and then tried intermittent fasting - after an (annoying) week without that habit, my body just got used to it and stopped craving for them.

Re: You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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Post by pnt12 »

HumanReadable wrote: post #430

My god there are many people in this comment thread who trivialise weight loss, clearly having never done it themselves. I'm a healthy weight, do heavy workouts 5 days a week and am in very good shape. When I cut my body fat down to ~10%, I go through hell in terms of hunger. There's not a minute I'm not thinking about how hungry I am, and how much I want to eat. I'm completely unable to do productive work, spending…

I think there are two approaches for that:

1. Count your calories and pick food that let's you stay within your goals.

2. Do intermittent fasting. After a few days, (some?) people's body just adapt and stop craving for food during the fasting hours - I was a late-night snacker but after doing it for a week, the cravings diminished a lot, so much that I stuck with it for a year.

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