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Re: Crowdsource by Google

#71

I was expecting to be pessimistic, but Google actually releases the datasets under a permissive license (CC-By 4.0). Awesome! https://research.google/tools/datasets/open-images-extended-... https://github.com/google-research-datasets/hiertext

I was expecting to be pessimistic, and I am, because I thought that datasets that actually matter probably won't be released and there is no guarantee that this trend will continue. Please don't trust the giant.

Re: Crowdsource by Google

#72
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You truly are the product. Don’t feed the FAANG.

None of the FAANG companies are cartel or forcing any users to use their products at gun point. Don't like their products then don't use it. Use alternative. They built one of the best products hence most of the world is using it.

This has gotta be trolling, but in case not.

Your comments are demonstrably disingenuous. You can't really opt-out. Employers, friends, family, partners, colleagues, peers, etc all rely on you relying on the FAANG/MAAMA networks and network-effect one way or another whether we want to or not. These companies provide what have become public utility services that large parts of society now depends upon.

"Best products"? (this was the troll right? ;) More like "only products", with positions that were achieved in no small part through anti-competitive, anti-consumer behaviours that have run almost unchecked for the better part of two decades.

So what alternative are you talking about? Opting out? That's only an option in the same way that you can theoretically "opt out of society" and go and live in a cave for a year or two before you die of malnutrition/illness/etc.

It's a capitulation to the embedded powers-that-be to imply this theoretical qualifies as practical alternative.

Re: Crowdsource by Google

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To be honest, until i saw the API side of Google Maps i was under the assumption that Google is doing great service with Google Maps. Even now Google Maps gives the accurate result thanks to all the contributors.

But the Google Maps API isn't free so I don't think your point applies here.

I think you are saying the same thing? Without the API it sounds like a great community service that is kept accurate by its users. But the paid-for (and pricey?) API that profits from this is what gives a bit of a sour taste to the 'community' feeling.

Re: Crowdsource by Google

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Yes! They can provide both filtered & unfiltered data.

I imagine there would be some serious legal concerns with releasing the raw data (I work for Google, but no special insights into this project)

Why? Users volunteer the data. Just ask them if they're ok with it being public.

Re: Crowdsource by Google

#77

One of the tasks in this app is audio validation: > Audio validation: Listen to a short audio clip and determine if the pronunciation sounds natural in your language. If this is something you're interested in doing, I recommend contributing to Mozilla's Common Voice instead. Common Voice builds freely licensed (CC-0) voice datasets that can be used by anyone, not just Google: https://commonvoice.mozilla.org

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Re: Crowdsource by Google

#78
As far as I see this, Google want us to do the job...for free. No, thank you very much. Payment for this should be mandatory. Do not work for free for a humongous company.

Re: Crowdsource by Google

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you're getting the use of the service..... for free...Yeesh! Consider before Google Maps. You'd either (a) buy a local map every few years (b) pay for a car navigation system. Now Google comes along and offers you a free maps and navigation service and you're complaining that if you try to make it better you're being screwed over? IT'S FREE!

Google is making a lot of money on Maps. The consumer app is free only so you feed them free data from your rides. They also kicked out of business all competition (hard to compete with free). And as usual with monopolies, when there’s no competition, you can do what you want. Wait for it. In few years it will be shut down or will cost a lot if they no longer can sell your data to someone else.

Google Maps has lots of competition. Bing, OSM, Apple, CityMapper, HERE, Yahoo Japan, TomTom, Garmin, Waze even though they own it… I could keep going.
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