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You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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Post by retrac »

gitfan86 wrote: post #97
vlunkr wrote: post #65

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Or alternatively, they know they are eating too much, but simply don't have the will power to quit. I'm no food expert, but to me it looks like any other addiction. They rely on food emotionally, so when they are ashamed or depressed that they aren't losing weight, they turn to food, which continues the addiction cycle.

American society is basically brainwashed as to what is and isn't healthy. It takes actual effort to become well informed. So many food products are marketed as "Fat Free, Organic, High In Fiber, Heart Healthy" and so on, even though the products are just a bunch of processed low quality crap. Even beer is frequently marketed as "Low Carb". In reality, there is no reason in include any calories for alcohol in any die…

"Alcohol has no calories". Can't count the number of times I've heard that. Nope. The human body can metabolize ethanol. 7 calories per gram. A few shots of vodka is a light meal with no nutrients.

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Post by yakak »

mpalczewski wrote: post #151
ehsankia wrote: post #124

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We have literally evolved to overeat. And one thing people don't consider is that genetics does play a real role. Just because it's easy for you to not overeat as much doesn't mean it's the same for others. I personally believe the solution will ultimately have to come from science/technology. We need a safe and efficient appetite reducer that people can take regularly.

Obesity started to be a thing in the last 100 years. It wasn't evolution.

There's a phenomenon that many island populations have abnormally high levels of morbid obesity. This comes from the huge advantage of having any genetic disposition to better store more fat/energy in a situation where more can not readily be obtained by increased hunting range, etc.

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at_a_remove wrote: post #148

It's pretty unpleasant for me. I have a metabolic disorder for which even a mild caloric deficit of ten percent can send me to the ER, during which the recommended treatment, besides the painkillers, is roughly a pound of sucrose delivered via IV. That's not fluid, that's a pound of sugar they want in me. And they want me on a high-carbohydrate diet, to boot. Weight loss for me entails either being in pain or taking…

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Post by kixiQu »

itake wrote: post #163
csours wrote: post #73

I weigh 350 pounds. I'm very obese. I know this. When I was a teenager, I looked at people who weighed 300+ pounds and though, how do you get that way. Don't you realize that you are gaining weight? Don't you know that you just have to eat less to lose weight? Anyway, now I realize that I am hungry. It never goes away unless I eat a significant amount of food. My body told me to eat, so I ate. It doesn't even take th…

> reply with some suggestion as to how I should eat so that I'm not hungry Not to be that guy... but are you eating low calorie dense foods or high calorie dense foods? The article points out that an Apple and a Donut have roughly the same volume, but an Apple is half the calories. Also, as the article suggests, cutting out liquid calories (that don't satisfy hunger) are easy first steps.

I promise you that someone thirty pounds down from their max knows all the "easy first steps". Please consider why you are choosing to be that guy.

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Post by Blackthorn »

mattlondon wrote: post #131

This article is quite accurate I think. I use MyFitnessPal on and off. It is easy - you just scan the barcode and it tots up the calories. MFP is excellent at making you face up to what you are actually eating. At first it was a huge eye-opener for how many calories were in everyday things - like a slice of bread is 80-120 calories etc. The article mentions fruit juice too - that was a big one for me as well. I figur…

Just want to note here that I recently switched off MFP for Cronometer because MFP had a literal week long outage and is architected in such a way that it must phone home in order to save anything like a recipe you make. So that was a whole week where I couldn't save a new recipe.

I've found Cronometer to be a lot faster in every way, and actually has an up to date database and when you scan something it doesn't have, it lets you scan the label and updates the database. Highly recommend.

Only problem is what's endemic to apps in general right now. They want a subscription instead of buying the app outright. That's gonna be a no from me, dawg.

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Post by notatoad »

elmerfud wrote: post #63
Etheryte wrote: post #26

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Saying exercise can help you reach your calorie deficit is fairly misleading. Yes, exercise burns calories, but even a hard workout is a small part of your daily calories spent at best.

25-30 minute jog is about 200 calories buried. That can amount to 7-12% increase depending your body size. This is not small or insignificant amount especially for the amount of input work done. Small boosts add up to big changes. It's always still about deficit.

>This is not small or insignificant amount

it's four oreos. or two slices of cheese. 200 calories a day is significant long-term, but it's also trivially easy to eat that much without even thinking about it.

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Post by ascar »

throwaway2016a wrote: post #82
retrac wrote: post #60

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One of my roommates tried everything, including good hard exercise and all sorts of diets. Nothing seemed to be working. It was kind of perplexing me, actually. Then we started working the same schedule, breakfast together. The whole thing unravelled with a casual comment he made. "Wow, you're really stingy with the sugar in your coffee." Except I wasn't. I was actually indulging myself, like two tablespoons. Show me…

That's why I always drink my coffee black. The amount of calories in sugar and especially "Coffee Mate" is amazing (in a bad way). A serving size of Coffee Mate is actually 1/5 of what I see most people actually put in their coffee. It only looks "low-ish" calories because the serving size is so small.

I love cafe latte made with a high quality bean in a portafilter. I use special higher fat oat milk for it, which gives it a nice nutty flavor and still puts a cup at just about 150kcal. I'm fine with that.

The oat milk actually tastes disgusting to me from the fridge, but is super tasty once steamed. The higher fat version (Oatly calls it Barista Edition) is necessary to steam it. Regular oatmilk stays mostly liquid.

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Post by scarface74 »

sharken wrote: post #52
projectazorian wrote: post #30

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That’s why it’s important to make exercise a lifelong habit. Diet to lose the weight, exercise to keep it off. To some extent you always need to manage your caloric intake of course - but if you exercise regularly, the occasional indulgence isn’t a big deal.

An overlooked benefit of exercising, is that if you are eating unhealthy or eating too much, then you will instantly know it when exercising. Running is quite good for this, it will tell you how things are going, far better than any scale.

This was definitely not true for me. When I was an active runner, I ate like crap and still did pretty well.

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Post by speedyapoc »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #54
tayo42 wrote: post #15

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its exhausting to do that. Im switching my diet up a little to bit to reduce cholesterol and some liver enzyme thing lately and Im starting to get tired of thinking so much before every meal and shopping trip. wish it was easier to not fall in to unhealthy traps. so many labels, and so much meal planning.

I've hit this before as well, and have come to the conclusion that, at least for me, detailed meal planning is not sustainable in the long run. This is one reason why I think that dieting advice that is simple and straightforward has the most success. Some examples: 1. Cut out all sugar-sweetened beverages. This is a pretty easy rule to follow, and even if you find yourself missing a soda or something, my recommendat…

With respect to #1, I'd like to make a shameless plug for "Zevia". As someone that would drink 1-2 cans of soda per day, this has been a game changer.

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Post by eptcyka »

retrac wrote: post #60
lr4444lr wrote: post #8

Someone finally wrote this article. So refreshing. It's obvious when you live with a fat person why they have trouble losing weight, even when they're on a diet: they're usually not actually following it. Whether they don't understand portion sizes for calorie math, or look at calories at all, or eat things that they say "do not count", there is almost always a failure to understand what and how much they are eating.

One of my roommates tried everything, including good hard exercise and all sorts of diets. Nothing seemed to be working. It was kind of perplexing me, actually. Then we started working the same schedule, breakfast together. The whole thing unravelled with a casual comment he made. "Wow, you're really stingy with the sugar in your coffee." Except I wasn't. I was actually indulging myself, like two tablespoons. Show me…

I highly recommend weighing ingredients when cooking. It's so much easier to be consistent when cooking recipes this way, cup and tablespoon measiremts be damned.
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