You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016) • Hacker News Board

Re: You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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Post by 0x737368 » Sat, May 14, 2022, 9:12 PM UTC

nostromo wrote: post #134

And if you are going to work out, lift weights. Don't just do cardio. In fact, many people won't have to do cardio at all. Cardio doesn't help you look and feel better. Build muscle, and that muscle will burn calories, even when you're asleep.

I love doing cardio, especially running gives me a rush like no other. If people don't want to do cardio you don't have to do it, you just have to adapt your calorie intake accordingly. But for those that don't mind it or even like it it's a neat way to squeeze out some more calories for a delicious meal or whatever.

I do agree that resistance training is important and often forgotten part of fitness. Having muscles means extra BMR and you will look better when you do lose that extra weight as opposed to that skinny fat look.

Re: You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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Post by Blackthorn » Sat, May 14, 2022, 9:12 PM UTC

mpalczewski wrote: post #151

ehsankia wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have literally evolved to overeat. And one thing people don't consider is that genetics does play a real role. Just because it's easy for you to not overeat as much doesn't mean it's the same for others. I personally believe the solution will ultimately have to come from science/technology. We need a safe and efficient appetite reducer that people can take regularly.

Obesity started to be a thing in the last 100 years. It wasn't evolution.

Obesity was literally always a thing, it was just hard for crap covered serfs to get the calories to make it a thing for them. For the other classes though...

Re: You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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Post by itake » Sat, May 14, 2022, 9:12 PM UTC

csours wrote: post #73

I weigh 350 pounds. I'm very obese. I know this. When I was a teenager, I looked at people who weighed 300+ pounds and though, how do you get that way. Don't you realize that you are gaining weight? Don't you know that you just have to eat less to lose weight? Anyway, now I realize that I am hungry. It never goes away unless I eat a significant amount of food. My body told me to eat, so I ate. It doesn't even take th…

> reply with some suggestion as to how I should eat so that I'm not hungry

Not to be that guy... but are you eating low calorie dense foods or high calorie dense foods?

The article points out that an Apple and a Donut have roughly the same volume, but an Apple is half the calories.

Also, as the article suggests, cutting out liquid calories (that don't satisfy hunger) are easy first steps.

Re: You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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Post by Ygg2 » Sat, May 14, 2022, 9:12 PM UTC

spicyusername wrote: post #147

stank345 wrote: post #114

Yeah, the proximate cause is eating too much but the ultimate cause has to be systemic if we're getting more and more obese all the time.

I am inclined to put that the other way around. The ultimate cause is consuming too much, the proximate causes are various elements of modern culture (i.e. Bigger serving sizes, more readily available snacks, alcohol consumption, etc).

If it wasn't synthetic we wouldn't see animals growing fat from eating leftover food.

I think sugars and processed food increase hunger rather than reducing it.

Re: You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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Post by CogitoCogito » Sat, May 14, 2022, 9:13 PM UTC

csours wrote: post #73

I weigh 350 pounds. I'm very obese. I know this. When I was a teenager, I looked at people who weighed 300+ pounds and though, how do you get that way. Don't you realize that you are gaining weight? Don't you know that you just have to eat less to lose weight? Anyway, now I realize that I am hungry. It never goes away unless I eat a significant amount of food. My body told me to eat, so I ate. It doesn't even take th…

I think you just need to accept living with hunger. As in be hungry constantly and just learn to live with it. This is the only method by which I've ever successfully lost weight. Go at a large forced deficit. After a week or so you get kind of used to being hungry (your hunger decreases, but it never goes away) and it becomes easier, but it's never totally easy.

Some people are able to avoid hunger by sticking to certain foods, but that's never worked for me.

Re: You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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Post by itake » Sat, May 14, 2022, 9:13 PM UTC

gonehome wrote: post #88

csours wrote: post #73

I weigh 350 pounds. I'm very obese. I know this. When I was a teenager, I looked at people who weighed 300+ pounds and though, how do you get that way. Don't you realize that you are gaining weight? Don't you know that you just have to eat less to lose weight? Anyway, now I realize that I am hungry. It never goes away unless I eat a significant amount of food. My body told me to eat, so I ate. It doesn't even take th…

I’ve never been on a calorie deficit and not been hungry. Calorie deficits are always a little unpleasant imo. It’s just suffering through that to get to a place where you want to maintain (which is much easier). I’ve lost 73lbs, 53lbs, 35lbs (different times and gained weight over years in between). Each time the calorie deficit sucked. There is a 3 day hump and two week hump of misery until you get kind of used to…

+1. I find drinking water and being hyper focused on a work or personal project distracts me enough from my tummy to get through those humps.

Re: You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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Post by roflyear » Sat, May 14, 2022, 9:13 PM UTC

csours wrote: post #73

I weigh 350 pounds. I'm very obese. I know this. When I was a teenager, I looked at people who weighed 300+ pounds and though, how do you get that way. Don't you realize that you are gaining weight? Don't you know that you just have to eat less to lose weight? Anyway, now I realize that I am hungry. It never goes away unless I eat a significant amount of food. My body told me to eat, so I ate. It doesn't even take th…

Same boat. I got over this once but fell back. I'm 'only' 70lbs overweight but food is an addiction for me. One I need to survive. Very hard.

Re: You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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Post by clairity » Sat, May 14, 2022, 9:13 PM UTC

csours wrote: post #73

I weigh 350 pounds. I'm very obese. I know this. When I was a teenager, I looked at people who weighed 300+ pounds and though, how do you get that way. Don't you realize that you are gaining weight? Don't you know that you just have to eat less to lose weight? Anyway, now I realize that I am hungry. It never goes away unless I eat a significant amount of food. My body told me to eat, so I ate. It doesn't even take th…

have you gone more than 2 weeks on a restricted diet (in my experience, 2 weeks is about the boundary for when the body decides it's going to adapt its hunger point to the new realities. unfortunately, it shifts back much quicker, or at least seems to do so since we're usually not paying as much attention then.

Re: You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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Post by jeffrallen » Sat, May 14, 2022, 9:14 PM UTC

thomond wrote: post #74

Sparkle-san wrote: post #4

This seems like a good primer on how to look at food differently. The problem with diets is that people relapse due to the fact that dieting is done through force of will and willpower is limited. For long lasting change, you need to reshape your relationship with food and be content with what and how you eat. Understanding some of the things in this article can be a good place to start.

Learning how to cook is a great way to do that. You know exactly what's in what you eat.

And cook like your grandma did.

Re: You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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Post by Blackthorn » Sat, May 14, 2022, 9:14 PM UTC

KennyBlanken wrote: post #84

lr4444lr wrote: post #8

Someone finally wrote this article. So refreshing. It's obvious when you live with a fat person why they have trouble losing weight, even when they're on a diet: they're usually not actually following it. Whether they don't understand portion sizes for calorie math, or look at calories at all, or eat things that they say "do not count", there is almost always a failure to understand what and how much they are eating.

"I'm big boned" - show them an MRI or cat scan of a morbidly obese person and you see a tiny little skeleton surrounded by what looks like a giant, puffed up cartoon balloon body. "I have a low metabolism" - obese people actually have a high 'metabolism', because moving all that extra weight takes a lot of energy "Being overweight is not unhealthy" - weird then that they are having trouble getting pregnant and/or mis…

Regardless of health, being overweight doesn't make someone a bad person.