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You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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Re: You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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600, 2000, 120, 700, 1400. Got the popcorn perfect, pretty close otherwise. Guess years of calorie tracking paid off.

Same. I calorie counted religiously for over two years almost a decade ago and to this day, I'm still able to eyeball the calories on most things.

My guesses were 800, 2400, 100, 400 (assumed cream and milk), 1200.

I've basically maintained my same weight from age 23 to 33 and I think knowing the calorie count of most things plays a big part in that.

Re: You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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> To lose weight you have to do a lot more exercise than you think consistently. And you have to eat a lot less than you think. Exercise doesn't help very much, it's really all about diet. Plus if you are exercising a lot, you'll feel hungier and it'll be harder mentally to not eat more to compensate.

I lost 60lbs in about a year almost exclusively based around a large amount of exercise. My diet was bad and I was eating far above 2000kcal on many days. I just exercised a lot. 1h of fairly intense cardio at least 6 days a week, though I would always round up to the next 10 min mark and do more like 70 or 80 min per day. Some days I would order pizza or something and some dessert in the evening when I knew this wou…

Depending on your weight, an hour of cardio is only 500 or so calories. Last night I showed my wife a hand with 5 Brazil nuts. That’s equivalent to a one mile run at my weight.

Obviously different things work for different people, but no amount of cardio is going to offset a terrible diet for most people. Caloric deficit and intermittent fasting combined with exercise is the easiest and fastest way (imho) to get your body to start metabolizing fat stores.

Re: You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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I weigh 350 pounds. I'm very obese. I know this. When I was a teenager, I looked at people who weighed 300+ pounds and though, how do you get that way. Don't you realize that you are gaining weight? Don't you know that you just have to eat less to lose weight? Anyway, now I realize that I am hungry. It never goes away unless I eat a significant amount of food. My body told me to eat, so I ate. It doesn't even take th…

Couldn't agree more with hunger being a sensation rather than a problem in its own right. I'd recommend a two or three day fast to almost anyone at least once in their life, to experience that feeling of "I am hungry, this is unpleasant, but it's not the end of the world".

> I'm down 30 pounds from my max.

Huge congratulations on the progress!

Re: You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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Went from 230 to ~155 without exercise by calorie restriction alone (600-1200cal/day). It IS possible, though likely unhealthy to accomplish without exercise (I never, ask they say, consulted a doctor prior to the self-imposed restriction). Exercise was uncomfortable until I had lost weight, now I can do 15+ mile hikes with a 60l backpack. I don't want to discourage anyone from doing exercise at any time in their goa…

> Exercise was uncomfortable until I had lost weight, now I can do 15+ mile hikes with a 60l backpack. A simple walk on an incline (5km/hr @ 5% incline) can help you burn 400+kcals/hour. You can probably eat at 1500 kcals and start your day with a walk like that on the treadmill while watching some TV show :). > .. but it is possible to lose weight by calorie restriction alone. Indeed it is! :) If you're obese or sev…

Walking is the most under rated weight loss activity. People don't understand how many calories walking on an incline on a treadmill will shred if you are obese. When I was 220 pounds, walking at 10% incline at 2.6mph was 770 calories an hour. It is actually hard to eat at a calorie surplus when you are burning that many calories a day.

If you want to lose weight you need to do one of the following

Be hungry, Be in pain from exercise (running), or sacrifice all your free time to low intensity exercise

I chose option 3 along with weight lifting and I don't regret it.

Walking also has this really cool effect of not increasing ghrelin unlike high intensity cardio

Re: You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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That’s why it’s important to make exercise a lifelong habit. Diet to lose the weight, exercise to keep it off. To some extent you always need to manage your caloric intake of course - but if you exercise regularly, the occasional indulgence isn’t a big deal.

An overlooked benefit of exercising, is that if you are eating unhealthy or eating too much, then you will instantly know it when exercising. Running is quite good for this, it will tell you how things are going, far better than any scale.

100%

I noticed that when Im not working out I have poor food choices and when I eat like crap I avoid training or it’s a lot more unpleasant than it should be.

Also training results in physiological changes that help losing fat and be generally healthy. Just make sure you’re not losing too much muscle size with the fat.

Re: You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

#146

Keto diets are both safe and effective. I have yet to meet somebody following one who didn't lose weight. I feel like this topic is basically resolved. Stop eating carbs.

So are vegan diets. (By which I mean: whole food, plant based.)

But you don't need to pick a team with all the tribalism that's involved. It really is as simple as eating less, like the article lays out.

And eating less is much easier if the foods you are eating are fiber rich (more filling).

Re: You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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Yeah, the proximate cause is eating too much but the ultimate cause has to be systemic if we're getting more and more obese all the time.

I am inclined to put that the other way around.

The ultimate cause is consuming too much, the proximate causes are various elements of modern culture (i.e. Bigger serving sizes, more readily available snacks, alcohol consumption, etc).

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It's pretty unpleasant for me. I have a metabolic disorder for which even a mild caloric deficit of ten percent can send me to the ER, during which the recommended treatment, besides the painkillers, is roughly a pound of sucrose delivered via IV. That's not fluid, that's a pound of sugar they want in me. And they want me on a high-carbohydrate diet, to boot.

Weight loss for me entails either being in pain or taking the meds to mask it and being unable to function. Previously, I could just diet, cut down, whatever. Now, cutting down for more than about a couple days starts it off. Even missing a meal can set it off (as well as infection, lost sleep, a wide array of medications). I have considered a celiac plexus block over Schedule II meds, then I could say a big fuck you to the pain because the wires have been cut.

Re: You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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For folks who don't want to drink their coffee black, erythritol and monkfruit powder make fine zero calorie substitutes. For a lot of things, actually. Modern zero calorie sweeteners are really impressive. We've come a long way from the days of saccharine.

Black, one sucralose packet per 10 to 20 oz and that's fine for me. I know that's a wide range, but you can't really do "half-packets" easily and the cup sizes I use vary.

Sucralose is such a godsend. Cheap, meters extremely easily with a liquid dropper, mixes incredibly well into most things, has no bad taste (at least to me).

Re: You're Not Losing Fat Because You're Eating Too Damn Much (2016)

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> The golden child of the food industry: organic produce. Even though studies have shown that organic food doesn’t have any additional health benefits versus conventional

While this may be true, I was able to go from 240lb to 185lb (I’m 6’2) in 10 months by:

1) Eating only organic, non-gmo, and gluten free

2) Only shopping at expensive health food stores that only carry specialty brands (no Oreos or Poptarts in stock!)

3) Eating a vegan diet

..So why did those things cause me to lose weight?

Simple: by dramatically self-limiting the categories and types of food I allow myself to eat, it’s simply harder to overeat.

I don’t care about the vegan lifestyle or philosophy, but I love that it broke my habit of eating cheese and crackers every night. When out at a restaurant, while I would normally order a burger, I’d end up with a salad (the only vegan thing)

And eating only organic/non-gmo/gluten free? Same reason: it dramatically reduced the variety of food I was able to buy without breaking the 3 rules above. I pick up a bag of chips, and if it’s not organic gluten free, right back on the shelf it goes.

And why shop at expensive health food stores? Not because the food is better, but because when everything is priced 50-100% higher than a regular supermarket, so I bought less food. Do you really want that $8 bag of chips?

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All of this is to say: if you’re looking to lose weight, don’t care so much about any specific diet, etc… think about your eating habits and how to change them.

If you’re motivated to lose weight and have the determination, I recommend going vegan paired with eating only organic.

Again, not recommending it because vegan or organic are magic diets (they’re not)… BUT by following an organic vegan diet you are forcing yourself to completely rethink nearly all of your eating habits, and once you break your current eating habits, you can begin to form new (healthier) eating habits.

Best part is that I didn’t gain the weight back since the way I lost it was by changing my habits and the way I think about food, rather than caring about calories or dieting.

If you’re overweight, it’s because of your eating habits. People who say “eat fewer calories, you must be in a deficit” aren’t wrong, but it’s hard to do because it requires so much thinking constantly about portion size, etc.

Weight loss can become much easier by establishing 1-2 strict “eating rules” that you commit following and that are simple to remember,

Honestly, I could have achieved the same weight loss by coming up with a silly rule like “I will only buy food that comes in blue packaging” instead of vegan/organic.

You need to figure out a way to change your eating habits, period. If my approach doesn’t resonate with you, think of something, anything, that will get you to replace your current habits with new ones.

Even if that means telling yourself you’ll only eat food that comes in blue packaging.

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