What the actual fuck? Other than the recent Github debacle, Heroku has been one of my favorite and most consistently used services for over a decade. The notion that it failed is ridiculous.
Why did Heroku fail?
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Re: Why did Heroku fail?
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It’s a preview of all big fish:small fish acquisitions really. There are some notable exceptions, but for the most part you should assume that an acquisition of a product you use will eventually mean you’ll need to go elsewhere imo.
Acquisitions always ruin the thing being acquired.
Like Youtube, that struggling video streaming platform?
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#63Did Heroku fail? Heroku was the biggest in a long line of developer tools. The PaaS and now FaaS models are still alive and well. A lot of developers want them. I know people are hot on containers and k8s but devs, who need to focus on code and business logic, have poorer productivity when they have to shift into thinking about ops. Heroku inspired a lot including direct competitors (like Cloud Foundry). A lot of mon…
Agree. I like simpler. Most of my coworkers do not prefer simpler. They want to use tons of AWS services.
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#64WTF is he talking about? They were acquired for $212 million. One of the most popular services like it ever. I am going to flag this post.
Re: Why did Heroku fail?
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s a preview of all big fish:small fish acquisitions really. There are some notable exceptions, but for the most part you should assume that an acquisition of a product you use will eventually mean you’ll need to go elsewhere imo.
Acquisitions always ruin the thing being acquired.
I would say Google Maps and Android were excellent acquisition stories.
Re: Why did Heroku fail?
#66Did Heroku fail? Heroku was the biggest in a long line of developer tools. The PaaS and now FaaS models are still alive and well. A lot of developers want them. I know people are hot on containers and k8s but devs, who need to focus on code and business logic, have poorer productivity when they have to shift into thinking about ops. Heroku inspired a lot including direct competitors (like Cloud Foundry). A lot of mon…
* They seemingly can't recover from this GitHub debacle (it's been a month without GitHub Sync). * They had a massive security breach where core-db was breached. Hashed user passwords and encrypted env vars were leaked. (And a hell of a lot more I bet—but they haven't admitted this) * They're operating with probably 1/3 the staff they were at peak due to attrition with no backfill and a layoff. * They've been under a…
That's different. Heroku itself was a massive success. The Salesforce management completely screwed up the department after the acquisition.
That's on Salesforce not Heroku. Heroku left the building already.
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#67WTF is he talking about? They were acquired for $212 million. One of the most popular services like it ever. I am going to flag this post.
12 years ago! Heroku of 2010 was a success. Heroku of 2015 was a success. Heroku of 2022 is a zombie of its former self headed straight towards implosion.
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
* They seemingly can't recover from this GitHub debacle (it's been a month without GitHub Sync). * They had a massive security breach where core-db was breached. Hashed user passwords and encrypted env vars were leaked. (And a hell of a lot more I bet—but they haven't admitted this) * They're operating with probably 1/3 the staff they were at peak due to attrition with no backfill and a layoff. * They've been under a…
That's different. Heroku itself was a massive success. The Salesforce management completely screwed up the department after the acquisition. That's on Salesforce not Heroku. Heroku left the building already.
Agreed. Heroku was an incredible success but using it in 2022 would be downright negligence.
(Although I would argue that Salesforce was also responsible for creating most of what we love about Heroku. That acquisition happened far earlier than people realize. They're also almost entirely responsible for its downfall.)
EDIT: Craig is right below (and he pretty much always is). When I said "created" I really meant in terms of giving them enough financial resources to keep building. SFDC exerted no influence in terms of product decisions early on (so far as I know). Re-reading my post I see that wasn't clear.
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#69As someone that put a good portion of their working career into helping create Heroku alongside many others, several who contributed way more and had a larger impact, the notion that it failed is probably the first thing that should be up for debate. But because we seem to want to debate this on a weekly basis... Heroku made reproducible builds and deployments a thing at a time people were used to ssh'ing in and scp'…
thanks. Really interesting perspective on the events. Fail is different than ran its course.
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#70Did Heroku fail? Heroku was the biggest in a long line of developer tools. The PaaS and now FaaS models are still alive and well. A lot of developers want them. I know people are hot on containers and k8s but devs, who need to focus on code and business logic, have poorer productivity when they have to shift into thinking about ops. Heroku inspired a lot including direct competitors (like Cloud Foundry). A lot of mon…
> Heroku inspired a lot including direct competitors (like Cloud Foundry). A lot of money has been made and people jobs make easier.
Ah Cloud Foundry. Something I drink to forget.
CF was the tool Salesforce should've bought or written. Heroku not so much.