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Re: Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring

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>I use hate-speech as an example because the "groomer" as a slur issue is at a peak right now and is fresh in my head. Mm. I think the problem is that censorship advocates like you try to add words like this into the lexicon of "hate speech" and try to have it censored. It's not, and it shouldn't be, and you should be ashamed of even thinking it. It is not other people's responsibility to stay up to date on what may…

> It is not other people's responsibility to stay up to date on what may or may not be triggering you on any particular day. The internet moves fast now, if there's a growing trend of a slang-word to get around hate speech laws without actually breaking any, and everyone reacting to it understands it... then it's hate-speech right? "groomer" is only used in the context of hatred towards a particular group without tec…

I'm pretty sure banning words that people use to get around hate speech isn't a particularly good idea...

Re: Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring

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>I use hate-speech as an example because the "groomer" as a slur issue is at a peak right now and is fresh in my head. Mm. I think the problem is that censorship advocates like you try to add words like this into the lexicon of "hate speech" and try to have it censored. It's not, and it shouldn't be, and you should be ashamed of even thinking it. It is not other people's responsibility to stay up to date on what may…

> It's not, and it shouldn't be, and you should be ashamed of even thinking it. I didn't see the OP advocating for censorship, but for the enablement of moderation for unacceptable content within a community. Do you think LGBTQ spaces on reddit - for instance - should be prevented from banning users that compare them all to child molesters? Is that "censorship" that the OP should be ashamed of? Must all spaces be ent…

>I didn't see the OP advocating for censorship, but for the enablement of moderation for unacceptable content within a community.

This is the same thing. Facilitating and encouraging the use of moderation policies which prohibit speech of users is censorship. I've often found that Americans confused "censorship" with "violating the Constitution." Most of us are not given Constitution protections because we don't live in America. Further, the Constitution only covers some kinds of free speech, not all. Censorship is much more broad than the Constitution, and covers private companies censoring citizens.

Re: Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring

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post #791

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> It is not other people's responsibility to stay up to date on what may or may not be triggering you on any particular day. The internet moves fast now, if there's a growing trend of a slang-word to get around hate speech laws without actually breaking any, and everyone reacting to it understands it... then it's hate-speech right? "groomer" is only used in the context of hatred towards a particular group without tec…

We wouldn't have any words left to use if it was up to you I guess. And what "hate-laws" are you referring to, in regards to speech, that people are "getting around"? You do know Twitter TOS is not the actual law right?

> We wouldn't have any words left to use if it was up to you I guess.

Good point, that's a bit of an extreme though and context/intent does matter.

> And what "hate-laws" are you referring to, in regards to speech, that people are "getting around"? You do know Twitter TOS is not the actual law right?

True, I meant the Twitter TOS I guess. But Musk wants to model the TOS as anything within the confines of the law right?

Re: Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring

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post #791

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> It is not other people's responsibility to stay up to date on what may or may not be triggering you on any particular day. The internet moves fast now, if there's a growing trend of a slang-word to get around hate speech laws without actually breaking any, and everyone reacting to it understands it... then it's hate-speech right? "groomer" is only used in the context of hatred towards a particular group without tec…

I'm pretty sure banning words that people use to get around hate speech isn't a particularly good idea...

It's just disturbing to me when comments using this hateful slang is promoted to the top of some posts on social media...

I'm not sure what a good solution would be, as anything that interferes with the speech of others infringes free speech I guess...

Re: Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring

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Growing up outside of the US, I feel kinda cringed when he said he was "INSANELY proud of our collective teams achieved". Such an interesting cultural difference.

I agree with the other replies about California Superlative in general, but at least in German it would not be weird for some corporate bro to say he was "WAHNSINNIG stolz..." which means exactly the same thing.

Re: Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring

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That there is high compensation attached to this job is unrelated to the principal of firing an employee on family leave. Companies are having to hold the line on what we value in this country, as legislation from environmental to health is not keeping up. Twitter is specifically of note because the CEO recently had a child and rightfully took paid leave himself. Whatever your personal opinions are on Elon Musk, he i…

Why would that be? Surely the badness in being fired is tied to the sudden loss of income, which is less bad if you’re super wealthy.

You mean, “the badness of being fired” while on parental leave?

Does Bottomless offer parental leave?

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post #768

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That’s a trap though. It’s far more sensible for most people to live well below their means and create options for their future.

I've stated what I've observed and experienced. Whether it's a "trap" or "sensible" is irrelevant.

Depends on the people. If you want to be safe to retire early, it is a good idea to keep living humbly while you are making a lot of mone and not adopt the Jet Set life.

I've seen example of people selling their company, retiring early and stay low-mid budget. One particular example is very wealthy but live in a small house, drive a 10y old compact hatchback car. You wouldn't know his fortune just by looking at his habits. He enjoy more a BBQ with his neighbors than going to expensive places to eat and help around when someone in the village needs an additional hand. He is still probably spending a lot more than I do traveling on holidays and he has nicer furnitures but he is still doing it like most people do, only a few weeks a year when the kids are out of school. What he has is the ability to justify buying expensive but sturdy stuff that last, instead of things that break and have to be replaced on a regular basis.

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post #464

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But why? Did tesla open source key scientific innovations in the scaling of batteries? Don't think so. See e.g. The seres f5 from Huawei. I don't know wether it's great but about the main metric, it has a higher range than teslas (1000km)

Tesla dragged the rest of the auto industry, kicking and screaming, into the EV business. EV was, at best, a curiosity and definitely nobody's main focus, until Tesla first showed EV cars are not golf carts (with the rooadster) and then that they can be a desirable higher-class sedan (with Model S). If Tesla went bankrupt today, we'd still be firmly on the path to phase out ICE cars. This was totally unconcievable ju…

> Tesla dragged the rest of the auto industry, kicking and screaming, into the EV business.

I would say that the advance in battery technology, the laws introduced by state of California and north european countries did more than Tesla ever did.

Also the Renault Zoe, still top selling EV cars in europe, had her first concept car showed in 2005 and was on sale only 5 months after the Model S in 2012. The Leaf also predates the Model S.The 1st generation Tesla Roadster sold poorly like most other contemporary EVs and most of the sales happened in her last year in 2012. It was as niche as all other EVs in the market in its first 3 years of commercial life. The Mitsubishi i-Miev and its Citroën and Peugeot variant outsold the Tesla Roadster by more than a factor of 10. Almost 30000 cars between 2008 and 2014.

What Tesla achieved was showing the wealthy people they could greenwash their way to the same energy wasting life by going EV. A good publicity stunt.

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