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Reversing Lens-Induced Myopia (2018)

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Re: Reversing Lens-Induced Myopia (2018)

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Post by notafraudster »

gdebel wrote: post #5

Ophthalmologist here. The myopia epidemic is real thing. The advice given in this post is not a dangerous thing to try. However, I doubt that the theory is true, and I doubt that following this method will really help myopic patients. Let's try to justify this point : "The long-term use of over-correcting glasses induces myopia" This is quite true. But it induces a myopia which is reversible. Overcorrection (which we…

The site alleges that there are a number of positive self-treating anecdotes found on the internet. Is there a medically justified explanation for these? (It's ok if not -- an alternative is that they're cranks or lying, both of which are very plausible). What is the minimum vision improvement from behavioural adjustment that would be medically surprising to you?

Re: Reversing Lens-Induced Myopia (2018)

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Post by walterbell »

This works for some people, not all. Reasons are unknown. Nevertheless, the EndMyopia "eye hacking" community has a wealth of empirical information about vision therapy, otherwise only available from very expensive vision therapists and specialist ophthalmologists. It requires an order of magnitude more effort/time than blindly following the guidance of random local optometrists. Even if you don't apply the methods directly, you can become a better educated consumer of professional eye-health services.

While the market for myopia is large and growing, the market for presbyopia is almost 100% of the HackerNews community. Similar techniques apply, in the face of sizable economic incentives to promote expensive progressive lenses. The advent of online glasses offers more options, e.g. dedicated computer glasses for a fixed focal plane, ChemistriE magnetic clip-ons.

In an industry which spends many hours daily using eyes for closeup work, "eye fitness" offers observable returns on vision literacy.

Re: Reversing Lens-Induced Myopia (2018)

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Post by someweirdperson »

gdebel wrote: post #5

Ophthalmologist here. The myopia epidemic is real thing. The advice given in this post is not a dangerous thing to try. However, I doubt that the theory is true, and I doubt that following this method will really help myopic patients. Let's try to justify this point : "The long-term use of over-correcting glasses induces myopia" This is quite true. But it induces a myopia which is reversible. Overcorrection (which we…

> However, we happen to have a very precise way to mesure the axial length of the eyeball (interferometry).

Does this measure the length at the center only? Even if the eye cannot shrink there, it could possibly grow outside of the center or by inreasing its diameter causing a change of the shape.

Re: Reversing Lens-Induced Myopia (2018)

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Post by unwind »

Meta: I quickly mis-read this as "A Human-Friendly PRINTER" and was almost comically relieved there, for a while.

Obviously, helping people with vision issues is kind of more important, I just have a complicated relationship with printers.

Re: Reversing Lens-Induced Myopia (2018)

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Post by jerheinze »

smsm42 wrote: post #37

I have a hard time buying this theory. I'm working behind a screen a lot, and my vision was mostly ok, but about 6-7 years ago I discovered I am no longer comfortable watching TV. I got glasses, which I wore only when watching TV (no more than an hour or two per day, and not every day - on average, would be around an hour a day or less). Recently, I had to take a vision test for driving, and I discovered that while I…

The article stresses that if you reduce too much for the distant vision then you will have too much blur which will only lead to blur adaptation, and won't yield any improvements.

Re: Reversing Lens-Induced Myopia (2018)

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Post by SemanticStrengh »

It has been studied that myopia progression can be almost stopped via daily administration of Berberine. However i have learnt this fact when it was too late for me and I have failed to find a pharmacological reversal. Although retinalamin might have some potential. It would be interesting to see wether Berberine potentiate the presented method. Although i have been without glasses for a whole year and I was nearly blind after a few meters, this has not reversed my myopia so??

Re: Reversing Lens-Induced Myopia (2018)

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Post by flyingsilverfin »

seshagiric wrote: post #34

We recently obtained Ortho-K lens for our 11-year-old as his myopia was progressing faster than normal. These are hard contact lens worn during sleep, they work by basically flattening the cornea. Next day morning when they wake up, vision is perfect, and glasses are not needed for the next day. Ortho-K contacts must be worn every night. If not, kid simply has to use his glasses. https://www.visioncenter.org/contacts…

I've had these for about 12 years, they don't get mentioned enough!

Downsides were that in the US there were expensive, and need proper daily cleaning, but the tradeoff is worth it - only need 1 pair per year - less waste too!

Going to get Lasik this year because they don't play nicely with travel in developing countries, but they were absolutely fantastic for school and university.

Re: Reversing Lens-Induced Myopia (2018)

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Post by feanaro »

planarhobbit wrote: post #22

I had something very strange occur to me. I realized one of my eyes was weaker than the other; specifically my right eye (I’m right handed, right footed I suppose). I would every so often close one eye, then the other, just to compare and to see if I can help strengthen the weaker eye. I was aware of EndMyopia, Hormesis theory etc. I went in to get an endoscopy done one day. They put me under for it for about 15 minu…

Ciliary spasm which was temporarily inhibited by the anesthesia?
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