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Re: Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring

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Post by maccolgan »

misiti3780 wrote: post #586
kyledrake wrote: post #189

I've been using Twitter since it's main novelty was that it was a successful Ruby on Rails app, and honestly I've been trying to figure out where the exit is for my personal use of Twitter lately. If the acquisition goes through, Twitter won't make enough money to service it's debt, and the things they will do to fix that are pretty much guaranteed to lower the quality of the platform, which frankly has never worked…

generally curious, what are some examples of disgusting things legal under US law (I'm not a content moderator)?

I'm assuming you don't know how horrific porn can be.

Re: Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring

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Post by rocqua »

drewcon wrote: post #786
ilamont wrote: post #262

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I also think the proposal to have Twitter allow all content that is "legal under US law" is a dangerous idea for the platform being a healthy community that most people actually want to participate in. This is key. If @dang suddenly threw up his hands and said "anything goes on HN within U.S. law" this wonderful virtual discussion forum would die and most of us would sign off forever. I say that as someone whose be…

I also have a reasonable expectation that HK is FOCUSED and CIVIL. I do not have that expectation on Twitter. Twitter is just a raw society fire hose and I'm fine with that. I think the future is to give SUPER clear power to individuals to manage their own experience. Freedom of speech is both the right to speak, but also the right of the listener to hear (or not hear) as an individual. I would also love to see twitt…

If you could 'subscribe' to a moderation service on Twitter, much like you used to subscribe to the editorial board of a newspaper, that might work.

It would make the right-wing less up-in-arms about censorship by unchosen companies. And create more space for various viewpoints.

At the same time, it would create even stronger bubbles.

Re: Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring

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Post by pbourke »

halfmatthalfcat wrote: post #251
johnboiles wrote: post #217

This is mind boggling to me. Kayvon is one of the best product leaders / visionaries I know. It was confusing to me in Dec that he wasn't Jack's successor. Kayvon was a huge driving force behind all the interesting product efforts of the last few years: Spaces, Fleets, topics, etc. Twitter went from not iterating on product (remember when Twitter's only change in several years was to change the star to a heart?) to s…

Twitter copied all of those features from other apps. Spaces = Clubhouse, Fleets (which was also cancelled last year) = Snapchat. At best, Kayvon was good a being reactionary to competition. Not that great of a track record.

Fleets as in fleeting. I thought it meant “group of ships” and seriously struggled to see how the name connected. Mind you, my use of Twitter is confined to “order by time desc” and Lists.

Re: Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring

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Post by ChuckMcM »

Traster wrote: post #84

So there's two options right - the first is that Parag is for some reason making big strategic decisions about the direction of the company despite the fact that we all know he'll be gone if the deal closes. Or he's making big strategic changes at the behest of the acquirers before the deal closes. Neither of these things seem particularly kosher moves to make. The question is how to figure out which one it is. It wo…

Seriously? Having been on both sides of a number of acquisitions I can tell you that these kinds of personnel changes are made typically at the (possibly indirect) request of the acquiring company. Things like "We've got a really create CMO that we're bringing on, we don't need any headwinds to them getting traction quickly" means "Get rid of the people who think they are in charge of marketing so that our person can set the table they want to set it." Or, "Some of our team is uncomfortable with Bob in the role he's in, he just doesn't seem like a good fit you know?" or any number of ways to communicate what executives they want moved out so that there will be spaces to be filled when the new team moves in.

And in a deal like this where there is no "plan B" the CEO's exit compensation is entirely predicated on their ability to "set the table" well for the incoming executive team. So yeah, Parag is doing what Musk or Musk's team told him need to be done prior to starting there, and if he told them he wouldn't do it then no big package for him.

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Post by blenderdt »

Traster wrote: post #84

So there's two options right - the first is that Parag is for some reason making big strategic decisions about the direction of the company despite the fact that we all know he'll be gone if the deal closes. Or he's making big strategic changes at the behest of the acquirers before the deal closes. Neither of these things seem particularly kosher moves to make. The question is how to figure out which one it is. It wo…

There are a lot of other options as well.

Maybe he already wanted to make those changes but didn't dare to make them. Maybe he now changed his mind thinking: if I don't Musk will.

And on goes the list of reasons you can think of..

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Post by eyelidlessness »

Stratoscope wrote: post #850
throwaway_1928 wrote: post #416

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Job offer or not, $42 million for doing almost nothing is a great deal.

> $42 million I would be happy enough right now with an extra $420,000!

That would be nice

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Post by once_inc »

slotrans wrote: post #284
johnboiles wrote: post #217

This is mind boggling to me. Kayvon is one of the best product leaders / visionaries I know. It was confusing to me in Dec that he wasn't Jack's successor. Kayvon was a huge driving force behind all the interesting product efforts of the last few years: Spaces, Fleets, topics, etc. Twitter went from not iterating on product (remember when Twitter's only change in several years was to change the star to a heart?) to s…

100% of those features are terrible. Topics, in particular, are actively and significantly harmful to the quality of my experience on Twitter. If there was a way to hide them permanently, now THAT would be a feature!

Agreed completely. All those functions are simple hacks on top of the platform to emulate functionality that is offered in other apps:

* Spaces => Clubhouse

* Topics => Instagram/Reddit

* Fleets => Instagram

Twitter should focus on its core value product: the tweets themselves, and manage that better. This means easier thread displays, better spam control and user management, better algorithm for displaying relevant tweets.

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Post by saimiam »

rocqua wrote: post #862
drewcon wrote: post #786

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also have a reasonable expectation that HK is FOCUSED and CIVIL. I do not have that expectation on Twitter. Twitter is just a raw society fire hose and I'm fine with that. I think the future is to give SUPER clear power to individuals to manage their own experience. Freedom of speech is both the right to speak, but also the right of the listener to hear (or not hear) as an individual. I would also love to see twitt…

If you could 'subscribe' to a moderation service on Twitter, much like you used to subscribe to the editorial board of a newspaper, that might work. It would make the right-wing less up-in-arms about censorship by unchosen companies. And create more space for various viewpoints. At the same time, it would create even stronger bubbles.

This is actually a wonderful idea but also somewhat like giving the keys to the kingdom to theirs parties.

If a Twitter moderator is anything like a Reddit moderator, good luck monetizing those millions of tweets people post every day.

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Post by once_inc »

astrange wrote: post #374
johnboiles wrote: post #217

This is mind boggling to me. Kayvon is one of the best product leaders / visionaries I know. It was confusing to me in Dec that he wasn't Jack's successor. Kayvon was a huge driving force behind all the interesting product efforts of the last few years: Spaces, Fleets, topics, etc. Twitter went from not iterating on product (remember when Twitter's only change in several years was to change the star to a heart?) to s…

Spaces is a good feature. Topics is the worst thing I've been subjected to in my life. I have a second account in Japanese and Topics constantly adds posts about trashy American pop stars I barely know to the feed.

Topics for anyone outside the US is completely dysfunctional. I've browsed the list of topics it generated for me (to disable them manually in the most dysfunctional way ever imagined) and half the topics it contained were completely unknown to me. Rappers, celebrities, baseball players, and K-pop stars. None of those are topics I've ever spent any real interest in, neither through searching nor interacting with other people's tweets.

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Post by strangeattractr »

maccolgan wrote: post #861
misiti3780 wrote: post #586

Earlier quoted context omitted.

generally curious, what are some examples of disgusting things legal under US law (I'm not a content moderator)?

I'm assuming you don't know how horrific porn can be.

But porn is allowed to be posted on twitter at present.
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