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Re: Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

knorker wrote: post #333
minimaxir wrote: post #2

> I’m just now learning that Parag fired Kayvon while he was on paternity leave, which is truly awful. > Parag is on his way out too. Why is he firing his product leaders during his lame-duck period? https://twitter.com/CaseyNewton/status/1524790595968901122

If parental leave should legally be counted as "working" (which it is, in many jurisdictions), with pay increase, bonus and promotions being based on virtual work, then why shouldn't firing be just fine too? Obviously not fire in any way related to parental leave, but if it's to be counted as work then it should be consistent.

100% agree. I think it's bizarre that folks think there is some kind of moratorium on getting laid off or fired if you're on leave, especially since Twitter offers 5 months of paternity leave. So everyone that is not on leave is at risk, but everyone that's on leave is magically protected?

You can't, and shouldn't, be fired for taking leave, bit obviously there are a million and 1 reasons for there to be changes in Twitter's exec leadership given what's happened over the past month.

Re: Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring

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Post by omgwtfbyobbq »

omgwtfbyobbq wrote: post #430
SemanticStrengh wrote: post #394

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VW will produce more EV next year than tesla (800K)

Hopefully they will produce 800k EVs. In 2020, they produced 263k EVs, so they'll roughly need to triple production. https://www.volkswagenag.com/en/news/2022/01/Volkswagen_doub... Tesla produced 936k cars last year, so VW will probably need to build more than 800k EVs to surpass Tesla in 2022. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a38657616/tesla-million-ev...

*In 2021...

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Post by stackbutterflow »

FooBarBizBazz wrote: post #784
IAmGraydon wrote: post #734

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I think there's a part of the HN population that has delusions of becoming billionaires one day, so they talk about tens of millions like it's not much. They'll likely never have either.

Financial security in the Bay Area requires a house there ($2-3M, nowadays) plus $COST_OF_LIVING/4%. This is easily $5M net worth. It's in "two Googlers and a successful exit at some point earlier" territory. Granted, this threshold is less than $10M, but it isn't orders of magnitude less All of which is to say that it is basically impossible to stay in the Bay long-term unless you make an absolute fuckton of money.…

You don't have to live in the Bay Area. You don't have to commute since they were talking about retiring with $42 millions.

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Post by Drew_ »

knubie wrote: post #622
ilamont wrote: post #262

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> I also think the proposal to have Twitter allow all content that is "legal under US law" is a dangerous idea for the platform being a healthy community that most people actually want to participate in. This is key. If @dang suddenly threw up his hands and said "anything goes on HN within U.S. law" this wonderful virtual discussion forum would die and most of us would sign off forever. I say that as someone whose be…

The difference between Twitter and Reddit, hacker news, or 4chan, is that on Twitter you ostensibly only see content from people you follow. If you don’t like the content someone is putting out, you just unfollow them. Twitter is more like email than Reddit in that sense, and no one is arguing for email to be moderated.

Reddit is much better at what you're describing. Twitter constantly inserts content you haven't asked for in your feed and when viewing tweets.

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Post by guelo »

paganel wrote: post #316
ilamont wrote: post #262

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> I also think the proposal to have Twitter allow all content that is "legal under US law" is a dangerous idea for the platform being a healthy community that most people actually want to participate in. This is key. If @dang suddenly threw up his hands and said "anything goes on HN within U.S. law" this wonderful virtual discussion forum would die and most of us would sign off forever. I say that as someone whose be…

That only works because HN is, mostly, politics-free. I'm not a regular Twitter user but afaik that platform is pretty heavy on politics, more than that, it's pretty heavy when it comes to a certain political spectrum, the other side has been mostly de-platformed by now. I don't consider that as a healthy platform to comment on for the general public (even though, I agree, it might be ok for people who happen to shar…

> pretty heavy when it comes to a certain political spectrum, the other side has been mostly de-platformed by now

That's what right wing has told you via sensational anecdotes. The actual studies I've seen shows that the algorithm boosts right wing stuff more than left wing stuff.

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Post by cromd »

FooBarBizBazz wrote: post #784
IAmGraydon wrote: post #734

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I think there's a part of the HN population that has delusions of becoming billionaires one day, so they talk about tens of millions like it's not much. They'll likely never have either.

Financial security in the Bay Area requires a house there ($2-3M, nowadays) plus $COST_OF_LIVING/4%. This is easily $5M net worth. It's in "two Googlers and a successful exit at some point earlier" territory. Granted, this threshold is less than $10M, but it isn't orders of magnitude less All of which is to say that it is basically impossible to stay in the Bay long-term unless you make an absolute fuckton of money.…

If you put $5M in index funds, you’d grow it by about $400k a year (8%) on average, to start. It’s hard to imagine going broke with that by doing “normal middle class” things. For added security, one could add in a part-time job.

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Post by brundolf »

adamrezich wrote: post #530
johnboiles wrote: post #445

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Agree. Spaces is good and the others not as much. Though I do use the 'War in Ukraine' topic a lot. The main diff though is that Twitter for a moment in time started taking some shots. Not that they were all the best shots. But for my first two years there it felt like the company took nearly 0 shots. That shift happened with Kayvon.

personally I'm very sick of the "perma-trending topics". "COVID-19: News and updates for $YOUR_LOCATION" still pops up in the sidebar here and there, and it's on the full trending topics list probably forever now?? like, guys, it's over, you can pull it now, I'm good thanks

A trick is to set your sidebar region to a country whose language you can't read. Then it just gets filled with irrelevant, impossible-to-read noise

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Post by GaylordTuring »

munificent wrote: post #648
kranke155 wrote: post #610

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Musk’s idea of “anything that is legal” is a terrible idea, it comes from someone who’s clearly never moderated a community. Generally any unpleasantness and lack of civility needs to be moderated out in some extent, or the platform gets completely taken over by trolls and normal people leave. That’s just the end result. Anyone who’s been involved in online communities know this. I see this in subreddits. The subredd…

> A rule I’ve learnt recently and really loved is - every community can be judged quickly by how comfortable women are in it. I've thought about this rule for many years. It applies equally well to offline real-world communities.

I would be careful using this rule. Women are, in general, most uncomfortable around weak/strange (but totally harmless) men.

Bring your average woman to a Richard Stallman meet-up and then to a UFC match and ask her which setting she found most uncomfortable. I can guarantee you that Richard picking his own nose in a room full of sweaty needs will be more disturbing to her than being close to thousands of jacked-up men cheering while two combatants almost kill each other.

Re: Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring

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Post by brundolf »

bobro wrote: post #240
johnboiles wrote: post #217

This is mind boggling to me. Kayvon is one of the best product leaders / visionaries I know. It was confusing to me in Dec that he wasn't Jack's successor. Kayvon was a huge driving force behind all the interesting product efforts of the last few years: Spaces, Fleets, topics, etc. Twitter went from not iterating on product (remember when Twitter's only change in several years was to change the star to a heart?) to s…

Are Spaces, Fleets, or Topics considered successes?

As others have said here, Spaces is a minor success. In my corner of Twitter I see people use it occasionally and I've had a few good experiences with it
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