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Post by lazide »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #688
MisterBastahrd wrote: post #587

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Glamor? Sure. Practicality? Eh. Maybe for daily commuting. When the IC companies convert over, Tesla shareholders are going to feel a ton of pain. The novelty will have worn off and the company will still pace at a mere fraction of its competitors. And at the very least, they'll all have vastly better QC than Tesla.

Aren’t most citizen travel miles from daily commuting and going to nearby shops?

The only people who buy a car for their median usage are people who can afford two (or more) cars.

Everyone else has to buy to cover the 99% pctile or they’re screwed when they need to do something somewhat unusual (long drive to grandmas house, move, vacation, family emergency, whatever).

And for those who say ‘just rent!’ - I’ve tried, and most of the times you’d want to, you can’t get a rental, because a bunch of other folks got there first! Rental companies can’t buy enough cars to handle peak usage a few times a year.

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Post by jasonladuke0311 »

dleslie wrote: post #714
ilamont wrote: post #597

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> I've tried this. It's false. So I have I. I currently have about a half-dozen accounts, each following different types of accounts with limited overlap. So, what I get on the genealogy account feed is limited almost entirely to genealogists and historians posting about those topics and very little else. People that stray too much get unfollowed. That said, my personal account has overlap with a separate startup/med…

> I currently have about a half-dozen accounts, each following different types of accounts with limited overlap. So, what I get on the genealogy account feed is limited almost entirely to genealogists and historians posting about those topics and very little else. People that stray too much get unfollowed. > And not everyone knows how to filter it, or they only have one account. Those are the most likely to leave. Yo…

> My experience is that _while engaging in that maintenance_ Twitter rapidly depleted in utility and value for me, because the dark patterns that encourage outrage engagement infected all those that I follow. It's simply not possible, AFAICT, to actively filter Twitter for strong content and not eventually either recede into accepting outrage or reducing one's feed to uselessness.

I reached the same conclusion. It’s garbage, and I quit. Occasionally I’ll get a text from a friend linking to Twitter and I regret following the link, every time, within 60 seconds or so.

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Post by IAmGraydon »

patrickdavey wrote: post #679
FridgeSeal wrote: post #656

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Hell, even if you managed a year or two, you’re still walking away with tens of millions that’s pretty close to financial security for the rest of your life.

Tens of millions is only "pretty close to financial security". Wow.

I think there's a part of the HN population that has delusions of becoming billionaires one day, so they talk about tens of millions like it's not much. They'll likely never have either.

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Post by Sebb767 »

Karawebnetwork wrote: post #477
pessimizer wrote: post #459

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> I also think the proposal to have Twitter allow all content that is "legal under US law" is a dangerous idea for the platform being a healthy community that most people actually want to participate in. I'd counter that platforms like Reddit, Youtube, or Facebook grew into institutions with extremely light content moderation, and it's only after they were successful and were targeted by politicians and media panics…

Reddit always has had community moderators which ensured that the subreddits were respecting the rules of their communities. For example, on LGBTQ issues subreddits telling people that they are groomers is not tolerated. If it was, people would quickly go away. While on some other subreddit, it might be tolerated but the targeted people are not present and will not see those messages. It is similar on Facebook where…

> This is different on a public platform like Twitter where everyone can see everything.

Aren't subreddits public, too? You can also ping people; T_D famously enraged /u/spez enough for him to start editing the comments of other users. I don't think anyone argues that filter bubbles don't exist on Twitter, either. Now, Twitter groups aren't as clearly segregated as subreddits, but I still don't see visibility as a big differentiator, to be honest.

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Post by 704FF43A »

Traster wrote: post #84

So there's two options right - the first is that Parag is for some reason making big strategic decisions about the direction of the company despite the fact that we all know he'll be gone if the deal closes. Or he's making big strategic changes at the behest of the acquirers before the deal closes. Neither of these things seem particularly kosher moves to make. The question is how to figure out which one it is. It wo…

> On the other hand, going rogue and making big strategic decisions about the company

Parag isn't a strong character like that. He's someone who plays by the rules and only says empty conventional things, without any personal opinion or feeling, couched in formal modern US corporate/tech language, with the required progressive veneer. I'm pretty sure he only thinks things along similar lines.

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Post by Vladimof »

fleddr wrote: post #480

Just a spring cleaning that is about a decade late. Twitter under-performs in every aspect imaginable: financially, product quality, product innovation. Nothing ever gets released and whilst this pace has improved in recent years, those "innovations" don't really deliver. They're barely used, copycats from other apps, and so on. Meanwhile, age-old problems are never addressed, like bots and the extremely hostile mob…

> Twitter under-performs in every aspect imaginable

They are pretty good at banning external services...

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Post by saxonww »

slibhb wrote: post #674
saxonww wrote: post #663

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> he was a democratically elected leader of arguably, the most influential nation in the world This aspect of the discussion around Twitter constantly baffles me. They have no obligation to offer service to anyone, and they have no obligation to ensure freedom of speech, balanced representation, or any other thing you can think of that would ensure everyone gets a voice. General, universal freedom of speech in the US…

Is the first amendment a good thing? If so, why? Does the reason you come up with magically not apply to twitter? Of course it applies. Twitter is not legally obligated to allow free speech but there are other reasons to do something than legal obligation.

In short: yes, it's a good thing. As written, the amendment is designed to prevent me from being arrested or killed by the Federal Government for speaking my mind, disseminating my thoughts on paper, or congregating with like-minded people.

I don't agree that this should be expected or required of businesses, because the dangers and incentives are different. Twitter is not going to have you arrested or killed for criticizing Twitter.

I agree that it's reasonable for Twitter to try and get as many users onto its platform as possible, because that earns them more money (I guess?), but if they are faced with having to choose between two groups of users to support, and they like one group better than the other, they should be able to choose to withhold service from the other group to keep the first. Even if it means a group of users loses the ability to speak via Twitter.

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Post by lupire »

warning26 wrote: post #580
throwaway-jim wrote: post #566

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I will never understand this. I thought vine was going to be the next big thing right until the day they decided to shut it down.

"Twitter supports videos now, therefore Vine is redundant! Shut it down and 100% of Vine users will post their videos on Twitter!" —Twitter PMs, probably

The Vic Gundrota Google+ school of Product Management.

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Post by PBnFlash »

DantesKite wrote: post #501
fleddr wrote: post #480

Just a spring cleaning that is about a decade late. Twitter under-performs in every aspect imaginable: financially, product quality, product innovation. Nothing ever gets released and whilst this pace has improved in recent years, those "innovations" don't really deliver. They're barely used, copycats from other apps, and so on. Meanwhile, age-old problems are never addressed, like bots and the extremely hostile mob…

You're 100% correct. They shut down Vine. TikTok is now a billion dollar industry. As far as I'm concerned, every product manager involved in that decision shouldn't be involved with Twitter anymore, because they display an astonishingly level of incompetence.

I would put parascope on that as well, they strangled meerkat for the live streaming market then let their product die.
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