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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

dghlsakjg wrote: post #537
jaywalk wrote: post #388

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> The ENTIRE point of parental leave benefit is to ensure that your employment status doesn’t change while you are using it. That's strange, I always thought that the point of it was to allow parents to spend much needed time with their newborn child.

Anyone can get that time with their child by quitting their job. The ‘benefit’ part is that you get your job back after a few months.

No, the "benefit" part is that you get full salary and benefits while you're not working.

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Post by mdoms »

Pxtl wrote: post #522
mdoms wrote: post #391

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> Kayvon was a huge driving force behind all the interesting product efforts of the last few years: Spaces, Fleets, topics, etc Honestly not sure if you're being sarcastic. Fleets were killed within months of launch because they were awful and no one wanted them. Spaces will die when the nft bubble finishes collapsing. And topics are just a way to shoehorn crap no one wants onto their timelines without asking first.

What do spaces have to do with NFTs?

NFT dudes are the only people I have EVER seen using that feature, and I use Twitter daily. I also follow exactly zero NFT dudes so I don't know why I always see their spaces.

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Post by r00fus »

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It's confusing because wealth in this case is based on valuation, which in the case of Tesla is based entirely on what some people think the company will do, monetarily, in the future. In my mind, Bill Gates is truly richer than Elon, because he has a diversified portfolio and could convert more of his holdings into other, different holdings, with less friction.

Bill Gates would be straight up wealthier than Musk if he didn't donate half his wealth to his foundation. If you consider that part of his wealth (in the sense of total lifetime income so far, not figure spending power, so subtracting off personal consumption/spending), you don't have Musk being suprosinly more wealthy.

Considering the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation is essentially chaired by the two directly, why wouldn't you consider that wealth (that they get nice tax treatment for donating to) isn't theirs?

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Post by VirusNewbie »

johnboiles wrote: post #217

This is mind boggling to me. Kayvon is one of the best product leaders / visionaries I know. It was confusing to me in Dec that he wasn't Jack's successor. Kayvon was a huge driving force behind all the interesting product efforts of the last few years: Spaces, Fleets, topics, etc. Twitter went from not iterating on product (remember when Twitter's only change in several years was to change the star to a heart?) to s…

>(not the least of which was the internal 'sacred cow' that all things must be built with Scala)

Lol wtf, why should a product person have any say in programming languages?

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Post by dmix »

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I will never understand this. I thought vine was going to be the next big thing right until the day they decided to shut it down.

"Twitter supports videos now, therefore Vine is redundant! Shut it down and 100% of Vine users will post their videos on Twitter!" —Twitter PMs, probably

If that's the rationale it has to be one of the worst tech product decisions in history. Out-doing even Googles collection of product shutdowns here.

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

dghlsakjg wrote: post #553
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #362

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So if the company has widespread layoffs (not saying that's what happened in this case), then anyone on paternal/maternal leave is automatically immune? > This sends a horrifying message to employees. Yeah, as someone without kids, your proposal certainly sends a horrifying message to me.

It’s not a proposal. It’s how the law works. If there are layoffs, then yes you can lose your job on parental leave, technically as long as the elimination of your position is unrelated to taking leave. I’m not saying that there is no way to do it. I’m saying that it’s a dumb thing to do. The message should be just as horrifying whether or not you have kids. The message is: “We made a commitment about your terms of e…

You have very odd ideas about what this "commitment about your terms of employment" is.

Yes, its true, legally you can not, and should not, be penalized for taking parental leave (a point I made in my original post). At the same time, you should not get some guarantee that because you are on leave you can't be treated the same as if you were working.

If this guy would have been fired had he been working, a parental leave doesn't act like some sort of "get out of jail free" card.

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Post by r00fus »

SemanticStrengh wrote: post #404
zamfi wrote: post #356

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Tesla produced the first ICE-equivalent EV sedan that was not merely a "compliance vehicle" in decades. Then, it turned out, people bought them by the hundreds of thousands, single-handedly recreating the market for EVs. Then, other manufacturers noticed, and started realizing they might be left behind if they didn't take EVs seriously. Now, sure, there are many competitors, but even still they have only been built i…

I am not an expert in cars and yet I know the Renault Zoe was commercialized in 2012, the year of the model S, for a reasonable autonomy and a much, much cheaper price. I believe tesla were the first to sell low volume, pricey EV cars. Their range and timing advance is only because of choosing the rich over the middle class, aka a lesser impact. Although it's true EV were and remain not cheap but it's getting quickly…

I'm no Musk fan, but let's be honest, Tesla released the Roadster in 2008. An expensive luxury product, no doubt, but years ahead of the Leaf or Zoe.

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Post by kbenson »

fleddr wrote: post #492
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How would they control mob mentality?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31160916 See above comment thread from another discussion, first reply is from me.

Those may help, but I'm not sure what they could do other than breaking the core conceit of their platform (short form, limited space) to really deal with it.

Limited space to express your intent, and the quick response cycle it engenders are not conducive to productive discussion. It's hot-takes and terse replies that people interpret as hostile even if they weren't meant as such all the way down. Take that out and what makes Twitter any different than every other platform? Though, maybe they're large enough and popular enough they could weather that change.

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Post by dmix »

fleddr wrote: post #492
themitigating wrote: post #484

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How would they control mob mentality?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31160916 See above comment thread from another discussion, first reply is from me.

> (e) Make it possible to prevent retweets (including quote retweets) from certain accounts you follow from showing up on your timeline. There are certain people you might like who retweet effluent, and you don't want that effluent going straight into your eyeballs.

There's many good points here. This is the best. They need to assume the content kinda sucks and let people control as much as possible, instead of thinking that AI is doing a good enough job for them.

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Post by socrates1998 »

I deleted twitter around the time Elon's bid got approved. I was thinking about it for a while, as the app is just another way to get pissed off at the world.

These moves seem odd given that Elon isn't even the owner yet and still has some ways to go to get it all done.

I am getting the feeling twitter will be dead in a couple of years. End up like Tumblr or something. It will still be there, but it will have lost it's place in the top 20 social media platforms.

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