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Re: Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring

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Post by corrral »

vmception wrote: post #461
corrral wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously. HN: "Firing a millionaire on paternity leave—and by "firing" I mean continuing to pay for the rest of their leave, plus probably a bunch of severance—is horrible!" 99% of the rest of the US: "WTF is paternity leave? Is that when your boss generously lets you use some of your annual leave for part of the week in which your kid is born?"

Lack of empathy between wage workers, pitted against other wage workers, perpetuates this. These are people that get taxed at 55% (top california income + top federal income + additional taxes). Not the ones with multiple orders of magnitude more money that get taxed at 4%. Their boat is so similar that its embarrassing for you to fall for the division.

> Their boat is so similar that its embarrassing for you to fall for the division.

Sticks, stones. I'm rubber, you're glue. Et c.

I'm well aware of the problem of false divisions distracting from the very real and much more important class war, but the level of concern on this one's still kinda silly, considering the broader context. Besides, I'm with the faction that'd rather get this news during paternal leave, than on the first week, or even month, back. Provided any pay for the leave—assuming at least some portion of it was paid—continued, anyway, which I expect it will unless they really want to risk a lawsuit for little benefit.

Re: Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring

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Post by fleddr »

themitigating wrote: post #484
fleddr wrote: post #480

Just a spring cleaning that is about a decade late. Twitter under-performs in every aspect imaginable: financially, product quality, product innovation. Nothing ever gets released and whilst this pace has improved in recent years, those "innovations" don't really deliver. They're barely used, copycats from other apps, and so on. Meanwhile, age-old problems are never addressed, like bots and the extremely hostile mob…

How would they control mob mentality?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31160916

See above comment thread from another discussion, first reply is from me.

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Post by vincvinc »

paganel wrote: post #316
ilamont wrote: post #262

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I also think the proposal to have Twitter allow all content that is "legal under US law" is a dangerous idea for the platform being a healthy community that most people actually want to participate in. This is key. If @dang suddenly threw up his hands and said "anything goes on HN within U.S. law" this wonderful virtual discussion forum would die and most of us would sign off forever. I say that as someone whose be…

That only works because HN is, mostly, politics-free. I'm not a regular Twitter user but afaik that platform is pretty heavy on politics, more than that, it's pretty heavy when it comes to a certain political spectrum, the other side has been mostly de-platformed by now. I don't consider that as a healthy platform to comment on for the general public (even though, I agree, it might be ok for people who happen to shar…

Hmm, are we on the same HN? I feel like I see a lot of topics debated I’d call political (“about how society ought to function”) on a daily basis.

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Post by femto113 »

paganel wrote: post #316
ilamont wrote: post #262

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I also think the proposal to have Twitter allow all content that is "legal under US law" is a dangerous idea for the platform being a healthy community that most people actually want to participate in. This is key. If @dang suddenly threw up his hands and said "anything goes on HN within U.S. law" this wonderful virtual discussion forum would die and most of us would sign off forever. I say that as someone whose be…

That only works because HN is, mostly, politics-free. I'm not a regular Twitter user but afaik that platform is pretty heavy on politics, more than that, it's pretty heavy when it comes to a certain political spectrum, the other side has been mostly de-platformed by now. I don't consider that as a healthy platform to comment on for the general public (even though, I agree, it might be ok for people who happen to shar…

Everything is politics, but most of HN's comment section is sufficiently homogenized around Silicon Valley libertarian ideology that political conflict is rarely at the forefront of discussions. A much more practical reason HN survives is there are no images or videos. It is profoundly easier to filter, downvote, or ignore someone's text ramblings than it is to curate media.

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Post by throwmeariver1 »

ilamont wrote: post #262
kyledrake wrote: post #189

I've been using Twitter since it's main novelty was that it was a successful Ruby on Rails app, and honestly I've been trying to figure out where the exit is for my personal use of Twitter lately. If the acquisition goes through, Twitter won't make enough money to service it's debt, and the things they will do to fix that are pretty much guaranteed to lower the quality of the platform, which frankly has never worked…

> I also think the proposal to have Twitter allow all content that is "legal under US law" is a dangerous idea for the platform being a healthy community that most people actually want to participate in. This is key. If @dang suddenly threw up his hands and said "anything goes on HN within U.S. law" this wonderful virtual discussion forum would die and most of us would sign off forever. I say that as someone whose be…

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Post by DantesKite »

bobro wrote: post #240
johnboiles wrote: post #217

This is mind boggling to me. Kayvon is one of the best product leaders / visionaries I know. It was confusing to me in Dec that he wasn't Jack's successor. Kayvon was a huge driving force behind all the interesting product efforts of the last few years: Spaces, Fleets, topics, etc. Twitter went from not iterating on product (remember when Twitter's only change in several years was to change the star to a heart?) to s…

Are Spaces, Fleets, or Topics considered successes?

Fleets was actually relatively good amongst certain content creators, especially as a monetization funnel.

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Post by exolymph »

ryanSrich wrote: post #97

Not entirely related, but I do not understand how someone could say this with a straight face https://twitter.com/kayvz/status/1524787804743475201?s=21&t=...

> I'm proud that we changed the perception around Twitter’s pace of innovation, and proud that we shifted the culture internally to make bigger bets, move faster, and eliminate sacred cows.

Lol

Re: Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring

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Post by throwmeariver1 »

dimitrios1 wrote: post #102
paxys wrote: post #17

Why is Parag making any major changes at this point? What "new vision" is he going to execute in his last few months at the company before Elon comes in and torpedoes it anyways?

Are you certain Elon would torpedo anything? What if it the move he would make as well? Would he still torpedo it? I am not sure how anyone can say with certainty what Elon will or won't do.

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