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Post by vmception »

corrral wrote: post #314
lesstenseflow wrote: post #267

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Why would firing someone who's on paternity leave be an issue at all? We're talking multi-millionaires who will get multi-million dollar severance. It's pretty hilarious to see the pearl clutching of techno-bourgeoisie over something like this, pretending other tech-lords are getting mistreated over some supposed breach of decorum. The mere fact that he gets to take parental leave puts him head and shoulders above mo…

Seriously. HN: "Firing a millionaire on paternity leave—and by "firing" I mean continuing to pay for the rest of their leave, plus probably a bunch of severance—is horrible!" 99% of the rest of the US: "WTF is paternity leave? Is that when your boss generously lets you use some of your annual leave for part of the week in which your kid is born?"

Lack of empathy between wage workers, pitted against other wage workers, perpetuates this.

These are people that get taxed at 55% (top california income + top federal income + additional taxes). Not the ones with multiple orders of magnitude more money that get taxed at 4%.

Their boat is so similar that its embarrassing for you to fall for the division.

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Post by pessimizer »

d23 wrote: post #413
paganel wrote: post #316

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That only works because HN is, mostly, politics-free. I'm not a regular Twitter user but afaik that platform is pretty heavy on politics, more than that, it's pretty heavy when it comes to a certain political spectrum, the other side has been mostly de-platformed by now. I don't consider that as a healthy platform to comment on for the general public (even though, I agree, it might be ok for people who happen to shar…

> That only works because HN is, mostly, politics-free. It's only politics-free because it's heavily moderated. There's nothing magical about the people here that make them apolitical. Political posts are often removed outright, and comments that are political have to be pretty fact-based (or at have the appearance thereof) to not be removed.

I'd add 1) that HN also didn't start politics-free, that was something that was consciously imposed on it well into its life, and 2) that HN post politics-moderation is far less influential than HN was pre politics-moderation.

Re: Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring

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Post by m12k »

Traster wrote: post #84

So there's two options right - the first is that Parag is for some reason making big strategic decisions about the direction of the company despite the fact that we all know he'll be gone if the deal closes. Or he's making big strategic changes at the behest of the acquirers before the deal closes. Neither of these things seem particularly kosher moves to make. The question is how to figure out which one it is. It wo…

It's also possible the deal provided an ad-hoc loyalty test and these to execs failed it.

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Post by senko »

SemanticStrengh wrote: post #352
paganel wrote: post #325

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> There are competitive cars vs tesla for electric It is my belief that those "competitive cars" wouldn't have happened if it hadn't been for Tesla.

But why? Did tesla open source key scientific innovations in the scaling of batteries? Don't think so. See e.g. The seres f5 from Huawei. I don't know wether it's great but about the main metric, it has a higher range than teslas (1000km)

Tesla dragged the rest of the auto industry, kicking and screaming, into the EV business.

EV was, at best, a curiosity and definitely nobody's main focus, until Tesla first showed EV cars are not golf carts (with the rooadster) and then that they can be a desirable higher-class sedan (with Model S).

If Tesla went bankrupt today, we'd still be firmly on the path to phase out ICE cars.

This was totally unconcievable just a few years ago. Tesla did that.

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Post by staticassertion »

wnevets wrote: post #334
jmyeet wrote: post #258

The two execs fired were: - Kayvon Beykpour, Head of Consumer Product (3 years, 11 months) [1]; and - Bruce Falck, Revenue Product Lead (5 years at Twitter, 3 years and 11 months in this position) [2] Kinda weird that both people were just shy of serving 4 years in their current roles. When I see moves like this my immediate thought is always, it's to save or make money. For example, there could be an options pool in…

Are there really no clauses in contracts or laws to prevent something like this? That sounds incredibly scummy.

There can be so-called 'acceleration' clauses where certain events trigger vests.

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Post by cmelbye »

robonerd wrote: post #181
TameAntelope wrote: post #140

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What's odd about it? Why wouldn't he be proud of his team for successfully building stuff he thought was important to build?

Being so proud you lose your sanity? That's quite odd. It's an insane amount of hyperbole.

Wait til you find out that "sick" and "ill" can also be synonyms for "really great".

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Post by SemanticStrengh »

robertlagrant wrote: post #400
paganel wrote: post #293

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That "mid-sized car company" has revolutionised an ~120-year industry while still managing to remain at the forefront, that's why its valuation is so high (even though I also do believe it's over-valued). I'm not saying this as a Tesla-lover nor as a fan of Musk, in fact, as a lover of gasoline engines and of cars in general I see this as a tragedy (I regard EVs as refrigerators with some wheels attached), but it is…

Well, refrigerators killed the ICE industry :D

What about the Thanos car though?

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Post by [deleted] »

garbagetime wrote: post #426
ilamont wrote: post #262

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> I also think the proposal to have Twitter allow all content that is "legal under US law" is a dangerous idea for the platform being a healthy community that most people actually want to participate in. This is key. If @dang suddenly threw up his hands and said "anything goes on HN within U.S. law" this wonderful virtual discussion forum would die and most of us would sign off forever. I say that as someone whose be…

I've never once thought to myself "I'm happy that the people I follow are only allowed to express some views" or any similar thought. If someone is too rude, I block the person. If I don't enjoy reading a person's Tweets, I unfollow him.

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Post by furyofantares »

throwaway_2341 wrote: post #453
throwaway_1928 wrote: post #398

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This may be Parag's hail mary play to appease his new master and keep his lucrative job. I would not be surprised if his next move is to publicly extol the virtues of Free Speech and the First Amendment.

Honest question. Would a CEO be that desperate to keep his job? I imagine Parag can walk away with plenty after the buyout and do something else that he likes.

I imagine it's a pretty intense job that takes up most of your life and permeates your sense of identity. Everything you said can be true and I'd still expect a CEO to be very strongly attached to their position.

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Post by pessimizer »

jkubicek wrote: post #420
KerrAvon wrote: post #371

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> has been mostly de-platformed by now Completely inaccurate. No one side has been deplatformed in aggregate. A few individuals have been suspended permanently for violating TOS. They should have been removed earlier, but were considered special cases due to their prominence. It amounts to Twitter removing its own inhibition on enforcing its TOS for certain prominent users. If you want a hard-right-wing heavy experie…

I totally agree with this take. I'm also surprised that there hasn't been more strident push-back against the "conservatives are being banned from Twitter" story from conservatives themselves. If I were right-leaning I would certainly not want to be associated with the q-anon advocates for violence that are being kicked off the platform.

Trump wasn't kicked off the platform for being q-anon.
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