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Re: Show HN: Paperd.ink – an open-source e-paper development board

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An ESP32+eink is a fun gadget. I got a https://shop.m5stack.com/products/m5paper-esp32-development-... before it went out of stock and it makes a nice weather station/status display that pulls info down from an in-house web server.

Indeed. Fun fact: e-ink is the name of the brand whereas e-paper display is the general term.

Annoyingly, I've also seen e-paper used to refer to memory LCDs. Pebble, for example, called the screens on their smartwatches "e-paper".

Re: Show HN: Paperd.ink – an open-source e-paper development board

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(OP here) Update: We sold out the first batch of paperd.ink! Thanks to each one of our supporters, we managed to pull this off because of you. As next step, we would love to talk with the users once they have paperd.ink in their hands. And for those who missed out, you can drop your emails or keep a track of our social media to be updated. Thanks again! PS: I will reply to the pending comments shortly. Sorry things h…

Hey, I can't see it on your page, what's your selling price? I am selling a very similar programmable display for $169, but it has a bigger screen and a wooden frame: https://www.invisible-computers.com/programmable-e-paper-scr... I suspect your price point is much lower than mine?

It was $89 shipped worldwide

http://web.archive.org/web/20220512072236/https://paperd.ink...

Re: Show HN: Paperd.ink – an open-source e-paper development board

#53

Sorry for nitpicking, but why MicroUSB instead of USB-C in new projects?

Anecdotally, I'll note that some USB-C stuff is rather power-hungry, compared to MicroUSB gadgets. I have a portable solar panel that easily charges my Kindle over MicroUSB, but struggles to make headway with many of my USB-C devices. I don't know if this is due to USB-C itself consuming power somehow, or if the higher amount of power that USB-C can supply means that USB-C devices put less effort into keeping power r…

USB-C is simply a form factor for a port, one which has only advantages compared to MicroUSB.

Your observation is valid in that USB-C frequently comes with a high power draw for charging batteries. When one isn't using a small solar panel, it's generally better to charge as fast as is compatible with battery health, so that's no bad thing.

But a Kindle which was aftermarket modified to use USB-C would have the same power requirements, just with a durable and bidirectional port. I encourage anyone making a device now to use USB-C, Micro doesn't have advantages and should be deprecated. We'll be stuck with it for a decade+ as it is, we should strive not to prolong the frustration.

Re: Show HN: Paperd.ink – an open-source e-paper development board

#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anecdotally, I'll note that some USB-C stuff is rather power-hungry, compared to MicroUSB gadgets. I have a portable solar panel that easily charges my Kindle over MicroUSB, but struggles to make headway with many of my USB-C devices. I don't know if this is due to USB-C itself consuming power somehow, or if the higher amount of power that USB-C can supply means that USB-C devices put less effort into keeping power r…

USB-C is simply a form factor for a port, one which has only advantages compared to MicroUSB. Your observation is valid in that USB-C frequently comes with a high power draw for charging batteries. When one isn't using a small solar panel, it's generally better to charge as fast as is compatible with battery health, so that's no bad thing. But a Kindle which was aftermarket modified to use USB-C would have the same p…

> Micro doesn't have advantages and should be deprecated.

Plus it's mechanically flimsy beyond all reason.

Re: Show HN: Paperd.ink – an open-source e-paper development board

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Sorry for nitpicking, but why MicroUSB instead of USB-C in new projects?

Anecdotally, I'll note that some USB-C stuff is rather power-hungry, compared to MicroUSB gadgets. I have a portable solar panel that easily charges my Kindle over MicroUSB, but struggles to make headway with many of my USB-C devices. I don't know if this is due to USB-C itself consuming power somehow, or if the higher amount of power that USB-C can supply means that USB-C devices put less effort into keeping power r…

The difference here is more likely to be between the Kindle (a notably low-power-draw device) and the other newer devices, especially the ones whose charging circuits are designed to take advantage of modern USB-C power delivery capabilities because people want their devices to charge faster.

There is nothing inherent to MicroUSB that draws less power except that it is older than the standards that allow USB to provide more power (and thus used in devices that don't draw as much power).

Re: Show HN: Paperd.ink – an open-source e-paper development board

#56

Why this instead of eg. M5Paper [0]? Similar price, been thinking to buy something like that, but delaying the decision, hoping PineNote[1] comes out soon :D [0] https://shop.m5stack.com/collections/m5stack-new-arrival/pro... [1] https://www.pine64.org/pinenote/

the more the merrier

Re: Show HN: Paperd.ink – an open-source e-paper development board

#57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anecdotally, I'll note that some USB-C stuff is rather power-hungry, compared to MicroUSB gadgets. I have a portable solar panel that easily charges my Kindle over MicroUSB, but struggles to make headway with many of my USB-C devices. I don't know if this is due to USB-C itself consuming power somehow, or if the higher amount of power that USB-C can supply means that USB-C devices put less effort into keeping power r…

USB-C is simply a form factor for a port, one which has only advantages compared to MicroUSB. Your observation is valid in that USB-C frequently comes with a high power draw for charging batteries. When one isn't using a small solar panel, it's generally better to charge as fast as is compatible with battery health, so that's no bad thing. But a Kindle which was aftermarket modified to use USB-C would have the same p…

also, the current kindles use usbc now.

now if only apple would update the airpods..

Re: Show HN: Paperd.ink – an open-source e-paper development board

#58

(OP here) Update: We sold out the first batch of paperd.ink! Thanks to each one of our supporters, we managed to pull this off because of you. As next step, we would love to talk with the users once they have paperd.ink in their hands. And for those who missed out, you can drop your emails or keep a track of our social media to be updated. Thanks again! PS: I will reply to the pending comments shortly. Sorry things h…

Hey, I can't see it on your page, what's your selling price? I am selling a very similar programmable display for $169, but it has a bigger screen and a wooden frame: https://www.invisible-computers.com/programmable-e-paper-scr... I suspect your price point is much lower than mine?

As commented by another user, we were selling for 89$ with free 3d printed enclosure and free shipping. However, the size of screen is smaller.

Re: Show HN: Paperd.ink – an open-source e-paper development board

#60

Looks like a nice case. How does it compare to the Inkplate? They offer colour and touchscreen versions with bigger screens for barely any more money (though you pay extra for a case).

They use recycled kindles hence the color and touchscreen I guess.
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