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Re: Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring

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> Spaces, Communities, Topics, Creator tools, Safety controls

Interesting: as a casual Twitter user since 2008, I am completely unaware of Spaces, Communities, Topics, and Creator tools. Probably because I use Tweetdeck (desktop) and Tweetbot (mobile). I never see trending posts or ads, either.

Re: Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring

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post #112

Is he the one who gave final approval of the anonymous login-wall, which pops up after 2 screens of scrolling in Twitter? If so, good riddance, as that is an incredibly hostile user pattern. BTW, maybe it's purely coincidence, but after refreshing my browser cache it seems to have gone away today.

Reddit does the same thing now if you use their website.

Good thing hardly anyone uses their website to read their website

Re: Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring

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post #76

> I’m just now learning that Parag fired Kayvon while he was on paternity leave, which is truly awful. > Parag is on his way out too. Why is he firing his product leaders during his lame-duck period? https://twitter.com/CaseyNewton/status/1524790595968901122

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Firing for someone for taking leave is definitely illegal. Firing them for unrelated reasons while on leave is not. This is true even in very progressive places like california.

Re: Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's my point though. The board accepted the buyout offer. "Hands on the wheel" means keeping the lights on and making sure everything stays stable until the deal closes. Firing the company's product and revenue leads is the opposite of that.

So there's a few things that could be in play here. 1. The tech market right now is a shit show, Twitter has only been saved from the general market trends because of the Elon offer. Once the Elon offer closes or falls through, Twitter's stock will correct. While Twitter is healthier is the time to get set up for that inevitable correction. The current market is driving fairly drastic action in the Tech Sector, just…

So…if the deal goes through the stock cannot “correct” because there will be no open market for twitter shares.

Elon is proposing to buy all the shares, not just a controlling majority. Twitter would no longer be on the NYSE.

So twitter can be saved from general market trends indefinitely, as long as whoever is bankrolling it can continue feeding it cash whenever twitter operates at a loss.

Re: Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring

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post #112

Is he the one who gave final approval of the anonymous login-wall, which pops up after 2 screens of scrolling in Twitter? If so, good riddance, as that is an incredibly hostile user pattern. BTW, maybe it's purely coincidence, but after refreshing my browser cache it seems to have gone away today.

Nothing could be worse than the crap reddit has been doing for the last year or so to force users (or from their perspective, useds, as rms likes to say) to download its app or login. First they outright blocked viewing posts unless logged in, then they disabled that, and now brought it back so that random posts are blocked from viewing with a message "This hasn't been reviewed" whatever that means.

Someone at reddit said, hey we can't be honest with users that we're trying to force them to use our app, we need to lie to them while we're doing it!

Re: Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring

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post #112

Is he the one who gave final approval of the anonymous login-wall, which pops up after 2 screens of scrolling in Twitter? If so, good riddance, as that is an incredibly hostile user pattern. BTW, maybe it's purely coincidence, but after refreshing my browser cache it seems to have gone away today.

Not for me, doesn't look like it's changed. But also, it is hilariously unlikely that Parag went "hey I really hate the login wall, you're fired!!"

Re: Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring

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post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's wrong with firing someone on paternity leave? It's not like he was fired because he was on paternity leave.

Maybe they would like to focus on their newborn, their wife, the new family dynamic - you know: important things - and not some stupid web app - which is what I would assume, since they're on maternity leave in the first place.

Good news then - he doesn't have to focus on some stupid web app anymore! And lord knows he's not worried about providing for his family.

Re: Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring

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post #126
post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firing while on paternity leave isn't really that bad as long as they give you severance to cover paternity leave plus some extra - which I'm guessing they did since severance packages for higher ups tend to be pretty good. (As compared to no severance or two weeks that many ICs get)

I strongly disagree. Firing someone while they’re on leave sends a direct signal to anyone else considering taking leave: “watch out, you won’t be able to defend yourself if you aren’t here.” ICs follow the lead that executives set. A chilling effect like this will cause folks who most _need_ the leave — single parents, people with family in need of care, or those struggling with their own health issues — to second-g…

If you are being fired, you generally do not "defend" yourself. Also, people at this level are very well-compensated, and the comp generally prices in the risk of things like this. Whether you are on leave or not scarcely matters unless you can show that you are fired because you are a parent (and that's an employment law issue).

It is my experience that people taking time off to be parents also take time off from the machinations that will lead getting promoted (at certain levels), thus hampering their advancement, but they are usually not fired, in tech anyway. Now the treatment of women, who already get a pretty bad deal even if they aren't mothers, is another matter altogether...

Re: Twitter CEO fires two top executives, freezes hiring

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post #84

So there's two options right - the first is that Parag is for some reason making big strategic decisions about the direction of the company despite the fact that we all know he'll be gone if the deal closes. Or he's making big strategic changes at the behest of the acquirers before the deal closes. Neither of these things seem particularly kosher moves to make. The question is how to figure out which one it is. It wo…

> So there's two options right There are far more possibilities than those two. Here's just one off the top of my head (I assign no probabilities here, just pointing out this false binary): This person is being fired as a result of some investigation or process that began prior to the acquisition process and whose results have only just been reached. There are a whole range of process driving, "my hands are tied" sce…

Another would be that this person was doing something that could derail the deal (deliberately or not), and the CEO felt the best thing to do was to protect the deal by firing him. Given that he's on paternity leave, and "Parag asked me to leave after letting me know that he wants to take the team in a different direction", that doesn't seem likely.
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