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Astronomers reveal first image of the black hole at the heart of our galaxy

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Re: Astronomers reveal first image of the black hole at the heart of our galaxy

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I'm sorry, I am really confused. Didn't we get "the first picture of the black hole at the center of our galaxy" like 2-3 years ago? I definitely remember seeing a nearly identical photo, and lots of press coverage about a particularly young woman who was closely involved in the project. What that something different?

as crazy as it sounds: that black hole was actually in a different galaxy :)

Re: Astronomers reveal first image of the black hole at the heart of our galaxy

#172

I'm sorry, I am really confused. Didn't we get "the first picture of the black hole at the center of our galaxy" like 2-3 years ago? I definitely remember seeing a nearly identical photo, and lots of press coverage about a particularly young woman who was closely involved in the project. What that something different?

The image from a few years ago, was taken of a blackhole in a different galaxy.

Re: Astronomers reveal first image of the black hole at the heart of our galaxy

#173

I'm sorry, I am really confused. Didn't we get "the first picture of the black hole at the center of our galaxy" like 2-3 years ago? I definitely remember seeing a nearly identical photo, and lots of press coverage about a particularly young woman who was closely involved in the project. What that something different?

That image was also captured by the EHT of the supermassive black hole (M87*) at the center of the M87 galaxy. The woman you're thinking of is Dr. Katie Bouman, now faculty at Caltech. She is also listed as an author on this work of imaging Sgr A*.

Re: Astronomers reveal first image of the black hole at the heart of our galaxy

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post #148

Can the smart people in here confirm if we are getting sucked into this someday or not?

Reading between the lines of this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_far_future

The sun itself may get ejected into intergalactic space when the Milky Way merges with Andromeda. (Earth will probably be totally engulfed by the sun when it goes red giant, or it might not in which case presumably it will continue orbiting. (7.59 billion years from now)

By 100 billion–1 trillion years from now all galaxies in the local group are expected to have merged, so there will probably be other opportunities for the sun to get yeeted into intergalactic space.

By 10–100 quintillion it's expected that 90-99% of all stellar remnants will be ejected.

Finally, at 10^30 (1 nonillion) years from now, we get this gem: Estimated time until most or all of the remaining 1–10% of stellar remnants not ejected from galaxies fall into their galaxies' central supermassive black holes. By this point, with binary stars having fallen into each other, and planets into their stars, via emission of gravitational radiation, only solitary objects (stellar remnants, brown dwarfs, ejected planetary-mass objects, black holes) will remain in the universe.

One thing to keep in mind though is that by the time our sun gets sucked into a black hole, the galaxy will have merged so it may very well be a different black hole, or this paticular black hole may have merged with multiple other ones.

Re: Astronomers reveal first image of the black hole at the heart of our galaxy

#175

I'm sorry, I am really confused. Didn't we get "the first picture of the black hole at the center of our galaxy" like 2-3 years ago? I definitely remember seeing a nearly identical photo, and lots of press coverage about a particularly young woman who was closely involved in the project. What that something different?

Nope, that was a black hole in another galaxy- Messier 87

Re: Astronomers reveal first image of the black hole at the heart of our galaxy

#176

I'm sorry, I am really confused. Didn't we get "the first picture of the black hole at the center of our galaxy" like 2-3 years ago? I definitely remember seeing a nearly identical photo, and lots of press coverage about a particularly young woman who was closely involved in the project. What that something different?

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Re: Astronomers reveal first image of the black hole at the heart of our galaxy

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For those wondering if we could get sharper images with JWST, here’s the previously imaged black hole (same angular size as our own) compared to a single pixel from Hubble’s wide field camera 3: https://twitter.com/alex_parker/status/1116070667068170240?s... JWST will have smaller “pixels” but is in the same ballpark.

So you’re saying no, JWST won’t provide significantly sharper images of black holes than the Event Horizon Telescope?

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Re: Astronomers reveal first image of the black hole at the heart of our galaxy

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It reminds me of all the hype and exuberance around the "first ever picture of a black hole". An achievement worthy of being lauded, for sure, but something just felt so artificial about the coverage. And truth be told, the photo itself was underwhelming in light of how incredible it was made out to be.

Speak for yourself :-) No one ever before was able to see this. It feels very similar to when I hold an expensive CPU in my hand or a very expensive (because handmade) watch which is 'more' than just a CPU or watch. It's the marvel of our time. Craftsmanship

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Re: Astronomers reveal first image of the black hole at the heart of our galaxy

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How sharp do we expect an infinite-res picture to be?

The resolution of these telescopes is limited by diffraction, not by the number of pixels on the sensors. The achievable angular resolution is roughly the wavelength divided by the aperture diameter [1]. JWST works in the few µm wavelength range and has a 6.5 m aperture, such that the angular resolution is ~0.1 arcsec. The EHT works with 1.3 mm wavelength and has an effective aperture of roughly the earth diameter (~…

Can we invert the diffraction process numerically?
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