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Please don’t let anyone Americanise it (1992)

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Re: Please don’t let anyone Americanise it (1992)

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I actually hosted Shaun Usher at Google [1]. We had an experiment, not sure if it was successful but it seemed like a good idea at the time, where Googlers read some of the letters.

He courted his wife entirely by letters on paper. This was not pre-Internet days, either; it was around 2000.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg7LRg2NAfM&list=PL4ugKP-T4L...

Re: Please don’t let anyone Americanise it (1992)

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Same. I can do it. But not fast.

Do you where one strapped to your body at all times? If you did, I bet you'd find it more intuitive.

I wore an analog watch for about 15 years and never hit the point where it was easier for me to read than a digital display.

Re: Please don’t let anyone Americanise it (1992)

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e.g., Philosopher's stone -> sorcerer's stone. Science-fiction and fantasy UK book covers were better too, which is another example of the same weird parochialism of the U.S. publishing industry as it was. My probably unpopular opinion is that it's a reflection of a more general, largely un-self-aware New York City parochialism, which was where most of the big publishing firms were based, at least until the last deca…

The Harry Potter book cover art change was not nearly as bad as what they did to video game box art. Original (Japan): https://i.pinimg.com/originals/22/5b/d9/225bd9e4fda8aee8ed0c... Americanized: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/351430897872-0-1/s-l1000.jpg

The Americanized one is much cooler to me. I would have gone for that as a kid.

The Japanese one is washed out and the art kinda looks amateur and crayola. I assumed that was the one you were complaining about because it minimizes the demon-looking Blanka and just looks boring.

Kinda like how my mom (US) wouldn't buy me Warcraft: Orcs vs Humans because the large green orc on the cover looked like a demon, and you just couldn't be doing that in the 90s with all the stories of children worshipping Satan coming out on the Oprah Winfrey Show.

Re: Please don’t let anyone Americanise it (1992)

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>Time is a continuum, not discrete; analogue watches demonstrate that, while digital ones do not While obviously true, we often treat time as discrete to an appropriate level of precision. Timekeeping in sports is essentially all digital these days for example. And generally speaking (at least for some contexts), 10am really does mean 10am, not 10ish. I actually normally use an analog display on my Apple Watch but I…

The issue is 10AM has real meaning but you’re only actually at 10AM for an instant mostly you want to know how long until something happens. Think of a meeting at 10AM with an analog clock you can get an intuitive feel for how long you have to finish what your working on. With a digital clock it’s easy to do the calculation but that distracts from the task at hand. It’s most noticeable with a seconds. Many analog clo…

I find it much easier to judge how urgent it is to finish given the information that it's 9:54 than by looking at an analog clock. I wore an analog watch from age ~5-20 out of stubbornness and never got to the point where it conveyed useful information to me without actively stopping to think.

Re: Please don’t let anyone Americanise it (1992)

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There's a deeply frustrating infantilisation when something is localized in the same language. My kids and I love Bluey, an Australian show, but apparently the producers had to refuse to have it redone with US and UK accents to stop it happening. Never understood what the problem with having David Attenborough instead of Sigourney Weaver narrate Planet Earth was either.

Not everybody is a xenophile, some people are nationalist types who get annoyed (rather than aroused) whenever they hear a foreign accent, and may even have trouble understanding them. You're not going to change channels if you hear an American accent, but they very much will if they hear an Australian one.

One out of every six big US movies would be black if it were proportionate to population, but they're not. The reason is because black people will watch white movies, but white people don't watch black movies. It's the people willing to walk away that make the decision.

It's very expensive to redub a series just to change the accent; they're getting a return on that.

Re: Please don’t let anyone Americanise it (1992)

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I've always been annoyed they replaced "Philosopher's Stone" with "Sorcerer's Stone" in the title of the Harry Potter novel, for American consumption. It feels kinda of insulting, frankly. I recently and randomly picked up a Japanese book, 1Q84. I was enjoying it quite a bit, when I started thinking about the cultural references it contained - it has numerous references to Western classical music and Sean Connery. It…

Sorcerer's Stone is particularly annoying i agree. Not like philosophers' stone is an existing mythos highly relevant to the story or anything.

Another that bugged me was Northern Lights -> The Golden Compass. Apparently NL was too abstract for American audiences?

Oh and Harlequin -> The Archer's Tale.

Re: Please don’t let anyone Americanise it (1992)

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I've always been annoyed they replaced "Philosopher's Stone" with "Sorcerer's Stone" in the title of the Harry Potter novel, for American consumption. It feels kinda of insulting, frankly. I recently and randomly picked up a Japanese book, 1Q84. I was enjoying it quite a bit, when I started thinking about the cultural references it contained - it has numerous references to Western classical music and Sean Connery. It…

Well, they didn't translate the pun in the title of 1Q84, at least, so they at least have some respect for the reader.

Re: Please don’t let anyone Americanise it (1992)

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post #39

There's a deeply frustrating infantilisation when something is localized in the same language. My kids and I love Bluey, an Australian show, but apparently the producers had to refuse to have it redone with US and UK accents to stop it happening. Never understood what the problem with having David Attenborough instead of Sigourney Weaver narrate Planet Earth was either.

In my experience, some people in the US/Canada struggle to understand a British accent and this might be one reason to dub it into another accent. My brother tried to order an apple pie fritter in Canada and the woman didn't understand what he was asking for. When he proncounced it fridder, she did :-) I understood both ways perfectly well but hey!

Not understanding an accent is purely due to lack of exposure - so if that's the reason producers choose to dub everything then it's a self perpetuating cycle of ignorance.

Re: Please don’t let anyone Americanise it (1992)

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My personal favorite story in this genre is that the set-top box that my employer-at-the-time imported into the US called the schedule "TV Guide."

PM: "TV Guide" is a Registered Trademark. You can't call it that! Non-US-folks: "Uhm, TV guide is just, ehhm, what it says" PM: "We'll be sued! We'll be wiped out" Non-US-folks: "Uhm, OK, so what about 'TV Listings'" PM: "Oh, yeah, that will be OK"

How any of this makes any difference still eludes me, but yeah...

Re: Please don’t let anyone Americanise it (1992)

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>So digital watches were mere technological toys rather than significant improvements on anything that went before. I don’t happen to think that’s true of cellular comms technology.

I think it's funny how for a brief moment there the digital watches joke became a thing again when everyone started pushing smart watches.

Funny enough, I kind of agree with adams that displaying a pictorial representation of time is better than it's numeric value, but honestly I find the classic representation too easy to trip up on.

>Incidentally, I noticed a few years ago, when we still had £1 notes, that the Queen looked very severe on £1 notes, less severe on five pound notes, and so on, all the way up to £50 notes. If you had a £50 the queen smiled at you very broadly

no way... https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/withdrawn-banknote...

oh my god it's kinda there! Go to 1992, What the hell?!?!

Edit: Oh I see. In 1992 they were rotating in new notes for 5 pound and above, but the series D pound notes were still in circulation, in those the queen was more demure, and in the new notes she's much happier.

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