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Coinbase warns that bankruptcy could wipe out user funds

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Re: Coinbase warns that bankruptcy could wipe out user funds

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When a CEO requires 8 twitter posts[1] to essentially convey the message "Don't worry about this legal clause", it sort of has the opposite effect on me. [1]: https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong/status/15242334800407101...

i don't use twitter that much so i don't know if this type of multi-tweet message is common place on the platform or not. especially for conveying important information in any sort of manner that should be taken seriously. i recently experienced a ~20 tweet "story" that was explaining a pretty serious and important shift in the posting parties operations. it was the first time i recall ever having encountered this so…

> i don't use twitter that much so i don't know if this type of multi-tweet message is common place on the platform or not. especially for conveying important information in any sort of manner that should be taken seriously.

It’s so common there’s bots that place the thread posts on a single page.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/25/21152579/twitter-thread-e...

Re: Coinbase warns that bankruptcy could wipe out user funds

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> I'm almost sure Coinbase practices fractional reserve I'm not a crypto guy, so excuse the naive question: Can coinbase loan out money without actually transferring some sort of single-ownership keys for the amount loaned? If so, then indeed, they should be able to engage in fractional reserve "banking". > and other forms of market manipulation Modern money markets are based on fractional reserve banking. That's how…

Money is not created through fractional reserve banking. Money is loaned into existence by commercial banks. Similarly Coinbase can sell you coins which don't exist. Like a bank it doesn't have to make good on this IOU until you withdraw your funds.

Which with the volatility of Bitcoin puts them in a situation where they can underprice an asset if they loan it out. Bitcoin loaning is rather rare because of this.

Re: Coinbase warns that bankruptcy could wipe out user funds

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Most hardware wallets use the same standard to generate your keys (BIP39, BIP32 and BIP44 I think) from a long recovery phrase of words. So you could for example restore your wallet in a wallet software if your hw wallets dies. As long as you have all the words and the correct order you should be able to restore your funds somewhere else.

But at that point I effectively don’t need the hardware as I’ve stored these words elsewhere.

The problem with your current approach, and software wallets in general (as well as these recoverable wallets) is the private key is retrievable. Which sorta negates the protections given by having a single owner of the cert (the hardware wallet).

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How do you "use" a stock? You give a company money in the hope they are able to turn it into more money over a certain period of time than you would holding it in a bank account. If the company pays a dividend it gets sent to you (or to whoever holds the stock on your behalf), but that doesn't seem like "using" the stock. I suppose you could "use" it by voting at the AGM. Crypto you can make use of (such as it is), b…

First of all, I don’t even have any idea what this means: > I suppose you could "use" it by voting at the AGM Is my stock anything other than the number of shares I see on TDAmeritrade.com? If I wanted to take this thing that I supposedly own and sell it or store it in a way that doesn’t involve TDAmeritrade.com, is that even possible? No fucking clue.

Of course it is possible, you don't have to use "TDAmeritrade.com" to manage your investments. You can hold the contract paper yourself if you like. A broker will charge more for those type of direct holdings when a trade is made however. Which is why it is popular to use the retail brokers that manage the contract for you.

My point was, there is really no "use" for a stock holding aside from the obvious as an investment. So simply investing in and holding a stock is fine.

The popular Crypto coins are supposed to have other uses, like a cash replacement. In fact cash replacement was intended to be the primary use for Bitcoin. But most people treat them as an investment they can just sit on and watch go up, like a stock.

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Maaaybe 70 y.o. moms should not invest in crypto then?

This and also arguably 70 year old moms are probably just fine at "don't lose this crucial piece of paper" given stuff like social security cards, birth certificates, savings bonds, and all the other bits that have been important pieces of paper for most of their lives.

> social security cards, birth certificates

These can be reissued: https://www.usa.gov/replace-vital-documents

Crypto on the other hand is just like "you're screwed, go scour the landfill for your hard drive".

Also, isn't the promise of crypto/defi that it's supposed to NOT be like those archaic systems (SSN, birth certs, etc.)?!

Re: Coinbase warns that bankruptcy could wipe out user funds

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If they were conservatively minded or playing it safe, the highest probability is that they left or lost a long time ago, or they haven’t entered yet. Coinbase won, effectively, which means they are well beyond taking a cut of transactions and calling it good. The statement from the CEO is to prevent a run. Why do they need to prevent a run if they aren’t farming the float? The only other option is “we make our money…

> The statement from the CEO is to prevent a run. Why do they need to prevent a run if they aren’t farming the float? Users/holdings going down aren't good for the company and stock, even if a run doesn't hurt them financially. Coinbase claims not to do anything with deposits: https://help.coinbase.com/en/coinbase/privacy-and-security/o...

I’m getting a gateway error on your link.

Re: Coinbase warns that bankruptcy could wipe out user funds

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But at that point I effectively don’t need the hardware as I’ve stored these words elsewhere.

The problem with your current approach, and software wallets in general (as well as these recoverable wallets) is the private key is retrievable. Which sorta negates the protections given by having a single owner of the cert (the hardware wallet).

I’m not terribly worried about that scenario. I haven’t had my 1password breached — lots of bad things could happen if I did. I don’t own enough crypto to make this my biggest concern. I’d rather have a robust system that will hold it without failure, or in Coinbase’s case, bankruptcy.

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Er, no. It's not. And the GP was edited already not to use blockquotes, so my comment is now moot.

Are you this quick to jump on media / news orgs that misquote others? Just curious.

Yes.

Re: Coinbase warns that bankruptcy could wipe out user funds

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Is there a better crypto on ramp though? Coinbase will let me transfer up to $1000 worth of crypto off their platform immediately after purchase even though the funds haven't settled in their account yet. Every other crypto platform I've used, forces a wait of 3, 7 or 10 days before you can withdraw your new crypto.

Yes. Doing work or providing a good or service in exchange for bitcoin/crypto.

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