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Coinbase warns that bankruptcy could wipe out user funds

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Re: Coinbase warns that bankruptcy could wipe out user funds

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I just moved all my crypto off Coinbase, just to be sure. Coinmotion seems to be a stable-ish option. At least they're not looking for hockeystick growth and aquisition.

Why do you use an external service ? Just keep the wallet on your own machine.

I had a wallet on my own machine when BTC was a new thing. Lost it. I've intentionally forgot how much self-mined BTC I had in there. It was more than 1.

Now I'll rather use a service =)

Re: Coinbase warns that bankruptcy could wipe out user funds

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Welcome to capitalism! The billionaires always eat first. And don't you forget it.

Actually bond holders eat first in US bankruptcy law. Then employees, and shareholders last. So in this case, under capitalism, billionaire investors eat last. [0] [0] https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/09/corporate-liquid...

If you're suggesting billionaire investors are never bond holders I'm confused where you got that impression.

Re: Coinbase warns that bankruptcy could wipe out user funds

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This boils down to the "not your keys not your coin" mantra that's often repeated in the cryptocurrency community. It is possible to move your coins to your own wallet and manage them on your own. This comes with risks (eg. lost keys). Keeping them on exchange comes with different risks. Anyone holding significant amount of cryptocurrencies should consider the risks of each choice, make an informed decision, and live…

So if I wanted to move stuff to my own wallet, what’s the best way to do that these days? Anything that can support more than just Bitcoin? I assume I’d just stick any private keys in a password manager vault that I already trust, and/or Yubikey. I’m not sure I trust the dedicated hardware wallets as that seems more prone to failure than a pure software approach.

Atomic wallet

Re: Coinbase warns that bankruptcy could wipe out user funds

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Can anyone tell me how to set up a wallet on my Mac in order to get my coins off coinbase. Is there any clear guide on how to do that. Every link on Google seems to be spam or downloading potentially malicious software. It's very fustrating because so many people seem to know how to set up a wallet on their computer/Mac however I cannot for the life of me find a clear wallet to download and move my funds to or a guid…

I use Atomic wallet.

Re: Coinbase warns that bankruptcy could wipe out user funds

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Wouldn't a hack of the custodial holdings just mean their customers lose their money but the business is otherwise a going concern (for that few moments until everybody stops paying them)?

They get a lot/most of their money from fees with ongoing transactions. If you look at the ‘5 minutes ahead’ picture if there is a hack that either 1) steals all customer assets, or 2) requires them to freeze all activity for a serious length of time, it’s a ‘no longer going concern’ type situation. No transactions? No income. No trust/willingness for people to continue doing transactions? No future income.

According to Coinbase 98% of their crypto is stored in offline wallets. So hacking won’t work. You’ll have to break into wherever they have the coins stored and hope the key isn’t destroyed when you unplug the device.

Re: Coinbase warns that bankruptcy could wipe out user funds

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> Why is twitter special? The SEC's Rule FD [1]. [1] https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2013-2013-51htm

Oh, that's backwards from what I thought the situation was. Thanks! Apparently such information has to be released in a way that all the public, generally, can see it at once and twitter with it's faked high user numbers and famous people fulfills this. Releasing it on a small local poster board would be illegal because it is limited, where twitter is legal because everyone theoretically has access to twitter.

Eh not entirely true. Twitter throws up a login screen if you try to view more than a couple tweets. There’s probably an argument there since an account (and PII) is required.

Re: Coinbase warns that bankruptcy could wipe out user funds

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It's not a people problem if you're making up quotes and people don't realize it. Use quoting for quotes. Everything else is in your own words, not someone elses, even if you are paraphrasing.

Thank you for summing it up this way. It certainly sounds like the original author wants to be taken seriously. In that case they should probably respect the fact that there is literally a word for what they've done. Misquote and its synonyms do not have good connotations, and in their worst form are simply libel...

If only we took this much care in the news. How many times has both sides misquoted someone? Yet people only seem to care when it’s misquoting the Coinbase CEO.

Re: Coinbase warns that bankruptcy could wipe out user funds

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>The problem is that the disclosure of risks is written in such a way that captures the existing situatio nand makes it hard for a valid crypto firm to not post... exactly this. Because ... they aren't FDIC insured nor do they provide any reliable protections for their user's money? It's hard not to post it, because it is true.

The problem is that there is no alternative statement for them to make. The disclosure of risks require them to be FDIC insured or state there is a risk of loss in bankruptcy, and given they don't have the option of FDIC insurance, they have to declare the risk. The problem is that coinbase don't have the choice to be insured, yet they get labelled as though they're yolo'ing it _whether they are or not_ because the F…

Coinbase is insured. Crypto balances are insured against theft, and fiat balances are deposited into accounts that are then FDIC (or whatever is equivalent for other countries) insured.

https://www.coinbase.com/legal/insurance

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I don't have skin in the game (not a crypto fan, not in the US and not an investor in coinbase), but I don't think your sarcasm is warranted here (side note for any other readers, that's _not_ what his linked thread says). Regulatory capture is _real_, and dispraportionately favours incumbents. As regulations are tightened on crypto in general, firms that are not involved in the creation of said regulations are going…

The thing with crypto is its just reinventing money and all the same crap over. Right now it's like banking in the 1820's with no parachute. Crypto isn't living up to it's PR an I don't really understand why people can't see its flaws.

> Crypto isn't living up to it's PR an I don't really understand why people can't see its flaws.

Because people are trying to get rich off of it. I believe a majority know it’s a horrible “currency”, they just want money.

Re: Coinbase warns that bankruptcy could wipe out user funds

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It’s a direct quote from the 2nd tweet in his thread.

Er, no. It's not. And the GP was edited already not to use blockquotes, so my comment is now moot.

Are you this quick to jump on media / news orgs that misquote others? Just curious.
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