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My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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My wife’s family fought in the American Revolution. Mine came here when Seinfeld had just come on the air. I think that makes a difference—the analogous facts would certainly matter in most other places in the world.

Glad too see that you are in agreement with George Orwell. Some citizens indeed are more equal than the others! Also, you are talking about your wife's family?!!! You mean her great great grandparents or even earlier ancestors? I am very intrigued by this inheritance based credit system that you are proposing that goes beyond wealth inheritance? Do you still get points if your ancestors participated in the revolt but…

> inheritance based credit system

It's not about "assigning points" but rather distinguishing "of a place" from "foreign to a place." I think I win on points--my family was wealthy landowners in Bangladesh, and her's settled the west coast of the US. My family had indoor plumbing way earlier than her's did.

But that doesn't mean I'm "of the U.S." just because I'm a citizen in the same way she is "of the U.S." The U.S. as it exists today reflects the culture that her ancestors handed down to her much more than it reflects the one mine handed down to me.

> I find this line of argument intriguing. I have soooooo many questions!

I have come to the conclusion that most Americans don't understand that culture exists in the same way most can't tell the difference between the national deficit and the national debt. They know the words, but don't actually grasp the concept.

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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I've lived in places where you have a zero chance of getting permanent residency, let alone citizenship. Even if you marry a citizen. Could your share the places?

I tend not to share personal history, so I'll randomly pick one: > Another country that is very difficult to receive citizenship is Qatar. There are lengthy continuous residence requirements and not all children or spouses receive citizenship automatically. > Children born in Qatar to Qatari parents are automatically entitled to citizenship. Any person born with a Qatari father may apply to be a citizen, if they meet…

Worth noting that you pay no income taxes in Qatar, and visa renewals are quick and do not require traveling outside the country for a new visa stamp.

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Whew, I just went through the process of getting a Permanent Residency in Japan, applying after working here for a bit over 4 years, and being accepted this spring, at a little under 5 years in.

It was stressful, but after reading this, I have to admit that immigration in Japan seems like a walk in a park, at least if you're privileged enough to speak Japanese and have a high-paying job.

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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It took me also ~18 years to get my green card. I went through a very similar (almost identical) route as the blogger and I'm glad he documented this grueling experience. I went to college in the US; graduated in 4 years; worked with OPT for 2.5 years; went back to a PhD program because my then employer wouldn't sponsor me an H1B (according to them, they are a start-up and cannot put up with the legal burden and cost…

Fragomen is excoriated everywhere I’ve seen them used. They likely have an understanding of the real transactional relationship and leverage that. It isn’t the visa holders they ostensibly serve that is the service they are delivering for, it is some other organization at the company paying them.

Whether that is HR, Purchasing or whoever, I sure would like to know the real dynamic at work, because their ineptitude serving the visa holding engineers has a measurable productivity impact on these engineers when some screw up of theirs consumes the engineers’ lives.

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Note that India requires prospective citizens to live in the country for 12 years before applying for naturalization, and China doesn't allow non-ethnic Chinese immigration at all (only ~1500 naturalized citizens/10,000 permanent residents in the whole country of over a billion people). Something to keep in mind when people from those countries complain about the American immigration system (doesn't apply to the Sing…

> Note that India requires prospective citizens to live in the country for 12 years before applying for naturalization

Note that India does not have a kafkaesque renewal process for work visas like America does.

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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20 years here and no GC yet. The immigration system is a disaster. Upwards of$2 million in taxes to still be treated as a temporary worker.

And yet if you had $500k or $1M as a lump sum years ago, you could simply have bought your way into the US with an EB-5. $900k or $1.8M now: https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/permanent...

EB-5 is not anywhere as easy as people make it out to be. The wait time for someone born in India or China is upwards of 10 years.

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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This is a really good account of the immigration system. I've gone through this myself. My path was significantly easier. As an Australian citizen, I got an E3 instead of an H1B. This is both easier to get and has no uncertainty with a lottery. Technically, there's a quota (10,000 per year) but that cap has never been hit. Also, I'm not born in one of the countries that has a ridiculous long wait like the author. Sti…

> It's also worth noting that H1Bs have different reentry permissions based on your country of origin. IIRC a mainland Chinese born coworker told me he could only renenter the US on his H1B for the first year of each 3 year H1B.

There isn't a separate re-entry restriction, it's just the expiry date of the visa stamp in the passport.

For Chinese nationals, US consulates only issued visa stamps valid for 1 year. I am not sure if this is still the case.

This would be a non-issue if visa stamps could be issued within the country (like basically every other country on earth), and in fact the US did issue stamps internally in the old days, but after 9/11 they changed it so only foreign diplomats and officials of UN, NATO etc can get visa stamps here.

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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I honestly can’t fathom what’s so great about America that people are willing to put up with this stuff. Do people still buy into the facade of fake hope? I have a Russian coworker who lectured at MIT and he said that every year immigrants would come to the new lecture series adorned in US flag clothes, absolutely full of propaganda. Then after time they would realise the truth: just another country, worse than many

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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I believe Canada could find a better way to provide social benefits without alienating the middle class. First of all levying higher taxation or regulation for money laundering. I think that alone will reduce the tax burden on the middle class people. Taxation is a long controversial discussion that often leads to no where. But the gist is that, for the 60k+/year roles, if you are employed in America, from what I hea…

> First of all levying higher taxation or regulation for money laundering They should take it one step further and make it illegal!

They are never going to do that.

Making money laundering illegal will send shockwaves across its economy. Canada is being criticized by both its citizens and foreign governments but the illegal moneyflows are actually proping the housing markets of Vancouver and Toronto up. It is a very complicated situation as taking any action against money laundering will also might greenlight foreign governments to sue Canada for harboring money from corruption and illegal activities.

Taking actions against money laundering is always a slippery slope.

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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I was super upset after visiting China and returning to the USA. Our immigration people were so much more authoritarian scary than the Chinese had been. And the Chinese had this cool smiley computer interface where you rated the chinese immigration official for their interaction on the spot. So China was not only friendlier and more welcoming, but also more accountable. We really need to check ourselves in America. O…

> And the Chinese had this cool smiley computer interface where you rated the chinese immigration official for their interaction on the spot. TBH I think I would click the smiliest smiley in any foreign country

Sadly US gov would probably discipline any officer who had 'too much smiley.'
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