Master of Orion

Post by FredPret » Thu, May 12, 2022, 1:22 AM UTC

nurettin wrote: post #49

FredPret wrote: post #47

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I always found population trumps all else. So if you have modifiers like subterranean (higher max pop per planet) plus maybe a pop growth increase, you’re likely to win. Another one I always went with was to pick Repulsive (no diplomacy) since you’ll end up at war with everyone anyway.

You can wipe the floor with everyone early using a warlord + telepathic + trans-dimensional combination. Fire missles and run around. As soon as the planetary fortress falls, the planet is yours, no invasion needed. I abused it so much that friends banned the combination from multiplayer.

Post by SloopJon » Thu, May 12, 2022, 1:26 AM UTC

katabasis wrote: post #67

As a kid I remember playing an old MS-DOS game that was kind of similar to MoO but may have predated it. You were in command of a new government on a resource-rich planet called Harmony and you had to steer your society through a star cluster full of intrigue and war. There was more of an over-arching narrative than something like MoO or Civilization, but much of the gameplay was similar. It had a bit of a Dune vibe.…

Post by katabasis » Thu, May 12, 2022, 2:42 AM UTC

SloopJon wrote: post #73

katabasis wrote: post #67

As a kid I remember playing an old MS-DOS game that was kind of similar to MoO but may have predated it. You were in command of a new government on a resource-rich planet called Harmony and you had to steer your society through a star cluster full of intrigue and war. There was more of an over-arching narrative than something like MoO or Civilization, but much of the gameplay was similar. It had a bit of a Dune vibe.…

I never played it, but Google turns up a game called Maelstrom that seems to fit the bill.

Post by antisthenes » Thu, May 12, 2022, 4:12 AM UTC

Pxtl wrote: post #35

seanwilson wrote: post #20

Are there any games like Civilization and Master of Orion where the number of units and choices in the later game don't get so overwhelming? I usually lose interest at this point but enjoy the early game. It's not the same kind of game or as grand in scale, but I really enjoyed Into the Breach because each turn you only have a limited number of choices and units each turn, and each choice feels important.

Imho, that was the charm of Orion 1 - it was flawed about it of course, but the basic ideas that 1) You didn't have to manage individual buildings, they were just priority bars on planets... 2) Ships of the same class stacked. meant that scaling up the empire wasn't the kind of tedious nightmare we see in more civ-style 4X games. Sadly Moo2, while a superior and more polished game than Moo1, moved away from this inno…

Post by chaostheory » Thu, May 12, 2022, 4:16 AM UTC

beefok wrote: post #74

beloch wrote: post #57

The sequel to MOO, and most 4X games made since then, have always felt inferior to me. MOO was like a game of chess. The rules were relatively simple, but complex enough to give you the "box of chocolates" games this article talks about. MOO2 bogged you down in micromanaging colony buildings, etc. and other 4X games made since have added far more complex systems. The results feels like chess where each piece now has…

I feel the same way, but I also feel the same way about Civilization. I pop open a virtualbox + windows XP just to play Civ for windows edition.. Something I still really enjoy is Deadlock by Accolade, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadlock:_Planetary_Conquest You can get it off gog for $7! I recommend that version over the Steam version. It can be finnicky, but again, I play it on the XP Virtualbox!