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My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Post by sudosysgen »

ROTMetro wrote: post #181
jka wrote: post #174

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I believe it, and that's a heinous series of events. Perhaps someone got confused, or there was an identity mismatch, or something. They're no excuse, but clearly something happened. It's understandable (and not necessarily wrong) to vent here, and I'm not going to ask whether you have done this already, because it's not useful to draw out an answer, but: if you can, find the relevant anti-corruption agency and repor…

Maybe 20 years ago the system worked, but it does not work currently. While I was incarcerated all of the decent COs quit or descended into drug/alcohol abuse if they had to keep the job. One was like 2 years from retirement and he just couldn't work in such a messed up system anymore. We had one counselor who actually helped people. They demoted here to a horrible work situation because she was helping people with C…

Your story deserves to be published.

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Post by throwaway48375 »

jltsiren wrote: post #300
ROTMetro wrote: post #172

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I was super upset after visiting China and returning to the USA. Our immigration people were so much more authoritarian scary than the Chinese had been. And the Chinese had this cool smiley computer interface where you rated the chinese immigration official for their interaction on the spot. So China was not only friendlier and more welcoming, but also more accountable. We really need to check ourselves in America. O…

Authoritarian countries are often good at maintaining a friendly facade. They understand that the legitimacy of the regime depends on keeping the middle class happy, or at least under control. When they consider someone beneficial to the regime, they will try to treat them well. They are not cartoon villains that treat people badly just because they can. They usually need a reason for that. I've seen the same differe…

Maybe the US is just good at maintaining a facade that they aren't authoritarian. The US border agents are acting in an objectively authoritarian manner while the Chinese border agents are not and yet somehow you conclude that the Chinese are the real authoritarians. It seems like you are a victim of propaganda.

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Post by yowlingcat »

notch656a wrote: post #297
tablespoon wrote: post #285

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> Ergo illegal detention and causeless strip searches (which even at border require PC) are justified? I take it Ms. Cervantes was also an HN poster? No. I'll repeat the situation: I don't trust your account of what happened. That is all.

That's your opinion. I invite you to read this excerpt [0] affidavit and decide for yourself whether that reads like anything other than made up garbage designed to fabricate probable cause. Then ponder why I would be released uncharged, and why if the allegations were true I would even be publicly discussing it online. There are a few other paragraphs in the affidavit that are entirely uninteresting to read and offe…

You shouldn't have to defend yourself to some presumptuous asshole on the internet. I'm sorry for what happened to you. I'm also sorry you even have to defend what happened to you on this thread.

I remember after 9/11 getting detained on a flight out of the country than for no other reason than my family was the wrong kind of brown. I remember how unfair it felt watching my mom and my sister cry under the stress of what we all knew was security theater. I remember seeing my dad pull out some diplomatic reserves from somewhere I didn't know in order to de-escalate the situation and get us on to our flight.

We were lucky that day. Many people were not. These situations shouldn't have to be about luck. They should be about fairness, safety, practicality, and most of all respect.

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Post by lotsofpulp »

gnulinux wrote: post #289
lotsofpulp wrote: post #50

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And yet if you had $500k or $1M as a lump sum years ago, you could simply have bought your way into the US with an EB-5. $900k or $1.8M now: https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/permanent...

EB doesn't lead to Green Card as far as I know. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. That'd mean you'll need to be on EB permanently, which is not unlike being on H for 20+ years.

From the above USCIS link:

>USCIS administers the EB-5 Program. Under this program, investors (and their spouses and unmarried children under 21) are eligible to apply for a Green Card (permanent residence) if they:

>Make the necessary investment in a commercial enterprise in the United States; and

>Plan to create or preserve 10 permanent full-time jobs for qualified U.S. workers.

>This program is known as EB-5 for the name of the employment-based fifth preference visa that participants receive.

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Post by rayiner »

rajup wrote: post #287
rayiner wrote: post #252

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As an immigrant to the US, I hate the double standards applied to Americans. Oh, you think Americans are racist for wanting to restrict immigration? How would people in India react to massive immigration from Africa?

Double standards or higher standards? I'm pretty sure people in India would react horribly to such a hypothetical situation. But if that's the standard you want to hold Americans and the American government to that's fine but perhaps then the USA should stop preaching to the world and exporting its "values" and "freedoms" and taking the moral high ground in pretty much every conflict around the world.

> perhaps then the USA should stop preaching to the world and exporting its "values" and "freedoms" and taking the moral high ground in pretty much every conflict around the world.

As a Gore/Kerry supporter I agree. And I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but there’s been a broad repudiation of George W. Bush’s vision for an evangelical role for America in spreading democracy among his own party.

I think Americans have many great virtues. But they’re not aliens, and America isn’t a science experiment. I don’t begrudge any American who wants a country of their own, just like Indians and Bangladeshis do.

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Post by WalterBright »

avs733 wrote: post #293
WalterBright wrote: post #291

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To be fair, it's the Americans disowning the notions that made America such a success. For example, successful entrepreneurs are routinely excoriated and demonized. Politicians get elected on promises of confiscating their success.

Uh…we are the literal home of the Horacio Alger myth.

The HA myth is about success through hard work. Hard work is not sufficient. One has to work smart, too.

I.e. digging a hole and filling it in again is hard work, but doesn't get you anywhere.

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Post by amscanne »

geodel wrote: post #201
anyfactor wrote: post #114

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I have a pro-cons list about immigrating to Canada. Why Canada ? - Getting a masters level education is much cheaper. - Immigration has less hoops to jump through. Specially if you are willing to live in the Atlantic side. - Great government and social benefits - I heard people are generally nicer. Why not Canada - - TAXES! TAXES! TAXES! - Canada is essentially the money laundering heaven [0] of North America. So buy…

I don't know if you care to be consistent: > Great government and social benefits > - TAXES! TAXES! TAXES! are one and same thing. Unless you think benefits can just appear out of thin air. Or just that others must pay for all good stuff that you looking to get.

Without higher taxes, you generally won't get good social services.. but just because taxes are high does not imply that government benefits are good. There's a large range of effectiveness at using tax dollars to actually provide value to citizens (and while I wouldn't put Canada at the top, I think it's well above high tax states like California).

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Post by amscanne »

anyfactor wrote: post #236
geodel wrote: post #201

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I don't know if you care to be consistent: > Great government and social benefits > - TAXES! TAXES! TAXES! are one and same thing. Unless you think benefits can just appear out of thin air. Or just that others must pay for all good stuff that you looking to get.

I believe Canada could find a better way to provide social benefits without alienating the middle class. First of all levying higher taxation or regulation for money laundering. I think that alone will reduce the tax burden on the middle class people. Taxation is a long controversial discussion that often leads to no where. But the gist is that, for the 60k+/year roles, if you are employed in America, from what I hea…

> First of all levying higher taxation or regulation for money laundering

They should take it one step further and make it illegal!

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Post by [deleted] »

random314 wrote: post #266
rayiner wrote: post #252

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As an immigrant to the US, I hate the double standards applied to Americans. Oh, you think Americans are racist for wanting to restrict immigration? How would people in India react to massive immigration from Africa?

Lots of loaded statements here. Immigrant describes his immigration situation. Your response 1. How dare you complain 2. I am going to pretend you called Americans racist. (Wattabout Indians being racist) You or your parents being immigrants is no excuse for your crude behavior.

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Post by la6472 »

random314 wrote: post #267
rayiner wrote: post #254

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It’s the lack of perspective that annoys me. It’s because America is so accommodating of immigrants compared to the rest of the world that you can talk like your ancestors built the country the minute you take the citizenship oath.

It should be made clear to the new citizens that some citizens are more equal than the others. /s

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