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Re: Flutter 3

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Yes, of course, everyone who disagrees with me is just an idiot who doesn’t know better. Excellent discourse.

That's right, my discourse has no argumentative value. I do not advance any substance allowing you to agree or disagree. It's just a difference at the premise level, I have experienced dart and I have experienced Kotlin. Learn boths properly (reading the kotlin guide is sufficent and can be done in an afternoon) and then you will be able to judge if I was wrong or not. From experience, the difference is huge and affe…

You seem to have a lot of very strongly held opinions in this thread that aren’t backed up by any evidence other than your personal opinion.

It’s clear that Flutter wasn’t for you for whatever reason and you seem to love Iconic which is great but obsessively hanging out on this thread and just trying to shit all over it at every opportunity you get without citing any evidence is weird.

Just go an enjoy Iconic. I don’t know why you keep trying to pick arguments with everyone here.

Re: Flutter 3

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I don't think that's how Ionic developers would describe it today. Have you actually used it or Capacitor recently? The quality of apps being built on the platform has never been higher. (one random example: https://reflect.app )

For what it's worth I'm an Ionic developer and I find the grand-parent's description pretty accurate. I do like Capacitor though, but I think that's mostly because I've had to deal with Cordova before.

Please pin point the relevant DX issues so that it can get recognition and get fixed

Re: Flutter 3

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In case any Flutter engineer/PM is watching this thread, any update on when the Material 3 components will be released? I have an iOS Flutter app that's getting pretty popular in its niche, but I'm waiting on the Material 3 components to be there to release an Android version.

For a list of what is currently available in Flutter 3, as well as a roadmap of upcoming features, see the M3 umbrella issue:

https://github.com/flutter/flutter/issues/91605

Feel free to upvote any issue that you would like to see prioritized, as it helps us with planning.

Re: Flutter 3

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What are big and highly used apps that use Flutter?

My app[1] has 5 figure daily users (if that's considered somewhat big) and is written in Flutter. I love Flutter. It made all this so much easier. [1] https://stockevents.app

Your app looks good! I'm curious, what did you use for the charts?

Re: Flutter 3

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Ionic is pretty awful too, though I can't fault them. It's just that papering a web interface on top of a native app is gonna be a poor experience no matter what.

sounds very unsubstantiated. please examplify, Ionic capacitor native support is excellent, in fact you can arbitrarilly call the android/IOS SDKs, with or without nativescript. You do understand there is no native difference between Ionic and flutter right?

Not sure what kind of substantiation you're looking for, but I've been working with Ionic and Capacitor for over 6 months now, as part of an ongoing client project. Previously, I worked with Cordova way back in 2015/2016. So I'm familiar with the technology. My comment addressed the fact that I'm not criticizing the tech, I'm criticizing the overall concept - rendering an application inside of a web view as if it's a native app.

Re: Flutter 3

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Despite many maturity issues in practice Flutter is the only realistic option for true cross platform UIs that run everywhere. Apart from Qt , but the licensing issue is a hindrance. And yes, the web backend isn't ideal, but it will improve over time. I just wish Google had built Flutter on a low level core that isn't tied to Dart, so it would be usable from other languages. Dart isn't horrible and is getting better,…

I thought I would hate Dart since it seems like such a bland language but after working in it for a year and a half its easily one of my favorites. Its straightforward and tailored directly for Flutter's use-cases. It feels like it doesn't come with a lot of the baggage you get with other, longer-lived languages. It is also incredibly readable without hiding how it works behind decades of syntactic sugar. All that to…

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Re: Flutter 3

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We have a react native app and sometimes it fails to build. We go to lunch, and come back no code change now it builds. I'm just sick of the NPM/Javascript bullshit. Does Flutter avoid all of these kinds of issues? I'm this close to scrapping the whole thing.

No, use native if you want to avoid that

Dude I'm close trust me.

Re: Flutter 3

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Ionic is pretty awful too, though I can't fault them. It's just that papering a web interface on top of a native app is gonna be a poor experience no matter what.

I don't think that's how Ionic developers would describe it today. Have you actually used it or Capacitor recently? The quality of apps being built on the platform has never been higher. (one random example: https://reflect.app )

I have been working with it recently, yes. Again, I'm not criticizing their tech, moreso the underlying idea - rendering a webview as if it's a native app.
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