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Re: Windows Terminal Source Code

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Post by mftb »

sirsinsalot wrote: post #37
mftb wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure but it's a reasonable question. I'm willing to give MS the benefit of the doubt and guess that they have generally implemented it in as light a way as possible, but that said sometimes it probably causes dire performance problems to outright breakage. For me it's largely academic at this point, but it's another reason to be happy I moved my main workstation off Windows.

You're willing to give MS the benefit of the doubt? I remember the bad old days and they no longer have this luxury from me.

Understood and when I was being forced to deal with it more often, I was not feeling so magnanimous either.

Re: Windows Terminal Source Code

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Post by DoctorOW »

Lammy wrote: post #30
Guillaume86 wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just glancing through them it looks like perfectly reasonable telemetry collection, not sure why you call that spying.

spy (/spaɪ/) v., 1 : [intransitive] to collect secret information about another country, organization or person

"secret information" is quite a bit of a stretch...

Re: Windows Terminal Source Code

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Post by baisq »

DoctorOW wrote: post #42
Lammy wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

spy (/spaɪ/) v., 1 : [intransitive] to collect secret information about another country, organization or person

"secret information" is quite a bit of a stretch...

What you do with your software in the privacy of your home seems like it should be “secret”

Re: Windows Terminal Source Code

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Post by kingcharles »

Bostonian wrote: post #3

Just wondering -- why would Microsoft release the source code for this component of Windows?

Probably the same reason they've opened sourced some other components lately: community feedback and updates.

There are a bunch of bugs in Windows core that I can't even get anyone to look at (and I'm an MVP). With these little bits they've opened sourced you can actively participate in helping the team fix the bugs, and add features as needed.

I know the team on Terminal had a whole muddle of problems to do with rendering recently that probably still needs some outside input. Even Microsoft's developers can't and don't know all the best ways to carry out tasks with their own APIs - there is just too much to learn.

Re: Windows Terminal Source Code

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Post by babypuncher »

Guillaume86 wrote: post #29
Lammy wrote: post #6

Here are all the ways it spies on you: https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/search?q=Telemetry%3A%... https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/blob/main/src/host/tel...

Just glancing through them it looks like perfectly reasonable telemetry collection, not sure why you call that spying.

We have a habit of diluting words to the point where they are meaningless, and I think it does more to hurt important causes than support them. By labeling all forms of telemetry as "spying", we just make it so people are less likely to take actual claims of spying seriously.

Re: Windows Terminal Source Code

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Post by Komodai »

rbanffy wrote: post #38
tambourine_man wrote: post #26

Apple should follow MS's example and open source its Terminal.app It's a decent terminal emulator, but could use several enhancements and the community could help. For some reason I haven't changed to iTerm yet, even though it's been objectively better in every way for years. Even the minor gripe I had with font rendering is fixed. There's something about using default apps as much as possible that appeals to me. But…

> It's a decent terminal emulator, but could use several enhancements and the community could help. It's the only modern terminal that passes the VT torture test. It supports double width and double height characters (great for terminal error messages). It doesn't support overline (which is awesome for status lines at the bottom of the screen) and requires font support for line drawing and block graphics (Unicode 13…

VT torture test?

Re: Windows Terminal Source Code

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Post by ossusermivami »

tambourine_man wrote: post #26

Apple should follow MS's example and open source its Terminal.app It's a decent terminal emulator, but could use several enhancements and the community could help. For some reason I haven't changed to iTerm yet, even though it's been objectively better in every way for years. Even the minor gripe I had with font rendering is fixed. There's something about using default apps as much as possible that appeals to me. But…

when i am using macOS I use kitty as on my (primary) Linux laptop, and it's works beautifully there,

(iterm2 is great too)

Re: Windows Terminal Source Code

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Post by Genbox »

baisq wrote: post #43
DoctorOW wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"secret information" is quite a bit of a stretch...

What you do with your software in the privacy of your home seems like it should be “secret”

That is not how telemetry works. It is not spying or a privacy issue. Categorizing it as such only dilute the meaning of both terms so the real issues won't be taken serious.

If you feel like a bunch of developers getting info about how many times the world clicks on a button hurts you personally, then don't install it. Calling it a privacy issue it taking it too far.

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