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Re: Master at Arms Badge for Boy Scouts (1925) [pdf]

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Post by wespiser_2018 » Wed, May 11, 2022, 9:17 PM UTC

dctoedt wrote: post #30

jimbob45 wrote: post #4

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The problem is that people who become Eagle Scouts tend to be successful enough individuals that the jobs they apply to don't understand why they would put such a low-grade achievement on their resume (compared to the other higher achievements they most likely have). It's like putting that you won an Olympic Gold in gymnastics when applying to be CEO of a Fortune 500 company. Yes, it's impressive to everyone, but at…

I'm an Eagle Scout (note the use of present tense) and I've had that on all of my resumes my entire adult life. When I got my Eagle, an uncle who was a senior executive at a Very Large Bank said that he would always give an Eagle Scout at least an interview.

Me too. It's an interest award I'm proud of, and it takes a tiny amount of space.

Re: Master at Arms Badge for Boy Scouts (1925) [pdf]

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Post by leephillips » Wed, May 11, 2022, 9:20 PM UTC

jvanderbot wrote: post #48

I really love this. I am a firm believer in everyone studying _some_ martial art (player's choice). For the following reasons: - It teaches an insane amount of respect when two people have to hold themselves back to practice - It teaches self-discipline, mostly in the long-forgotten art of keeping yourself from becoming so angry you cannot function with form. - It gives a crazy amount of confidence to know you are at…

All excellent points. And, in addition, you get many other beneficial side effects: improved sense of balance and body awareness, situational awareness, realistic appreciation of how dangerous fighting is and how easy it is to get hurt, stamina, and more.

Re: Master at Arms Badge for Boy Scouts (1925) [pdf]

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Post by leephillips » Wed, May 11, 2022, 9:21 PM UTC

throwawayboise wrote: post #54

jvanderbot wrote: post #48

I really love this. I am a firm believer in everyone studying _some_ martial art (player's choice). For the following reasons: - It teaches an insane amount of respect when two people have to hold themselves back to practice - It teaches self-discipline, mostly in the long-forgotten art of keeping yourself from becoming so angry you cannot function with form. - It gives a crazy amount of confidence to know you are at…

I could support kids learning boxing if it was limited to body blows. With what we are learning about concussion, it seems to be more and more understood that blows to the head are never OK. Maybe you still need to teach defense against head blows, but they should probably not be allowed in competition. Getting battered in the head until you cannot stand up or respond should be right out.

Although, according to the pamphlet, “Every boy who is worthy of the name has an inclination to know something of the art of boxing.”

Re: Master at Arms Badge for Boy Scouts (1925) [pdf]

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Post by kevin_thibedeau » Wed, May 11, 2022, 9:24 PM UTC

micromacrofoot wrote: post #18

UberFly wrote: post #13

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Sheesh. Some of the best things I ever did involved the risk of getting hurt. And yes, I guess I could see someone very left-leaning hating on an Eagle Scout but it would still probably be rare thankfully.

What's the liberal complaint about scouting?

From one side its overt religious bias. From the other it's being too inclusive by admitting girls.

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Post by atdrummond » Wed, May 11, 2022, 9:25 PM UTC

micromacrofoot wrote: post #47

themodelplumber wrote: post #22

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For the big ones, read about the history of scouting, including when BSP visited Portland OR. You'll understand right away.

what's BSP?

I assume this is a malformed initialism for Baden-Powell, scouting’s founder.

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Post by atdrummond » Wed, May 11, 2022, 9:26 PM UTC

mikestew wrote: post #37

themodelplumber wrote: post #22

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For the big ones, read about the history of scouting, including when BSP visited Portland OR. You'll understand right away.

That is the worst homework assignment ever: read the complete history of Boy Scouts, including when an unexpanded not-common acronym visited Portland. Was a link asking too much?

https://scoutingmagazine.org/issues/0811/d-wwas.html I assume this is a reference to the political fracas that Baden-Powell encountered with a group of Socialists in Portland.

Re: Master at Arms Badge for Boy Scouts (1925) [pdf]

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Post by corrral » Wed, May 11, 2022, 9:27 PM UTC

Re: Master at Arms Badge for Boy Scouts (1925) [pdf]

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Post by arnmac » Wed, May 11, 2022, 9:32 PM UTC

acrobatsunfish wrote: post #40

MisterBastahrd wrote: post #17

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Well, sure. I was a quiz bowl captain, president of the national honor society, and placed yearly at the state science fair and I didn't list those on a professional resume either. It takes very little effort to be an Eagle Scout. I completed all requirements including the community project aside from the board review before I turned 13. Our scoutmaster suddenly quit on us to attain his MS in engineering (his employe…

Life for life?

This made me laugh. Many a scout has been 1 merit badge away.

Re: Master at Arms Badge for Boy Scouts (1925) [pdf]

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Post by arnmac » Wed, May 11, 2022, 9:40 PM UTC

dctoedt wrote: post #30

jimbob45 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that people who become Eagle Scouts tend to be successful enough individuals that the jobs they apply to don't understand why they would put such a low-grade achievement on their resume (compared to the other higher achievements they most likely have). It's like putting that you won an Olympic Gold in gymnastics when applying to be CEO of a Fortune 500 company. Yes, it's impressive to everyone, but at…

I'm an Eagle Scout (note the use of present tense) and I've had that on all of my resumes my entire adult life. When I got my Eagle, an uncle who was a senior executive at a Very Large Bank said that he would always give an Eagle Scout at least an interview.

Not going to lie. If you submitted a resume for a job I was hiring for and you 1. Pass the HR check 2. Had some of what I was looking in skills 3. Had Eagle Scout on your resume

You are going to get an interview. Might not get the job but I would give you a chance.

Just like anything in life the Eagle Scout Rank is not the same to everyone. Not everyone put in the same amount of effort. They all should have met the same requirements but in the end what did you personally learn? Some scouts learn and grow in leadership others it was just a thing they did.

As an 11 year old scout I was almost immediately introduced to conflict resolution, setting and achieving goals, leading groups in small tasks. Looking back most of the lessons didn't really take root until years later when I got a real job. Then I had a group of concepts that some of my peers did not and I was able to take the early lessons and build on them more quickly.

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Post by throwawayboise » Wed, May 11, 2022, 9:43 PM UTC

leephillips wrote: post #63

throwawayboise wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I could support kids learning boxing if it was limited to body blows. With what we are learning about concussion, it seems to be more and more understood that blows to the head are never OK. Maybe you still need to teach defense against head blows, but they should probably not be allowed in competition. Getting battered in the head until you cannot stand up or respond should be right out.

Although, according to the pamphlet, “Every boy who is worthy of the name has an inclination to know something of the art of boxing.”

I saw that too and it made me smile. I think it can still be done. Just cut out the brain damage.