Think of the kids is just another excuse to break privacy now that terrorism and covid aren't interesting anymore. I wonder what's gonna be next? Russian propaganda and fake news?
European Commission prefers breaking privacy to protecting kids
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#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
Speak for yourself. Privacy and freedom are more important than security to many, many people.
Sounds good, doesn't work. Security and freedom are "platonic" ideals. None of those exists in the abstract, as a real world thing, and you can't find one without the other in the wild (in a Disney-like world, maybe, but not in the real world, in the presense of others, that is people that want to deprive you of either/both, and can benefit from doing so). Trivially speaking, if some thugs can just come and beat you…
When people say "privacy and freedom are more important than security" it's in regards to privacy and freedom being curtailed by the government in order for the government to provide security. Don't be absurd.
Re: European Commission prefers breaking privacy to protecting kids
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
I assume you meant this piece with "scanning of conversations": > As mentioned, detecting ‘grooming’ would have a positive impact on the fundamental rights of potential victims especially by contributing to the prevention of abuse; if swift action is taken, it may even prevent a child from suffering harm. At the same time, the detection process is generally speaking the most intrusive one for users (compared to the d…
95% of men aged 20-30 will be flagged for telling their equally aged friends to "suck their dick".
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Re: European Commission prefers breaking privacy to protecting kids
#74Their true motives are far from protecting kids. Otherwise, they would install security cameras inside all corners in all churches in the continent, and, more importantly, enforce bodycam on pastors 24/7.
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#75This is the true face of the EU. Anyone who opposes it will be branded as a child molester. Even if the parliament rejects this proposal, the next power hungry authoritarian can simply try again, until eventually one parliament will pass it. You can be either in support of total surveillance, or in support of abolishing the EU. There is no middle ground.
> This is the true face of the EU.
Why is it so popular to bash EU here over non sequitur?
is it jealousy or simply anti EU people not being able to mouth their opinions among their EU peers in Europe because they would be laughed at?
Re: European Commission prefers breaking privacy to protecting kids
#76Cambridge is not EU anymore.
They should focus on their country.
https://techcrunch.com/2021/06/30/uk-tells-messaging-apps-no...
Re: European Commission prefers breaking privacy to protecting kids
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just for the record, one can believe in Covid restrictions of 2020 and also believe this CSAM action is absurd and anti-privacy. Equating them is shallow at best and misleading at worst.
When you're a hammer (libertarian) everything looks like a nail (bad faith crisis management to justify to government overreach). The problem is the world is full of crises that need government support, the question is which do we want addressed?
The world is full of crises created by government intervention: healthcare, housing, education, etc.
Re: European Commission prefers breaking privacy to protecting kids
#78Their true motives are far from protecting kids. Otherwise, they would install security cameras inside all corners in all churches in the continent, and, more importantly, enforce bodycam on pastors 24/7.
> cameras inside all corners in all churches in the continent,
Because that's how you protect people privacy, right???
Why not put military personnel in every corner of every street and check if people have the "approved by the government" tattoo on their wrists?
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#79https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/system/files/2022-05/Propo... This contains the text of the requirements. Search for "Grooming" and you'll find some particularly horrifying chunks regarding "scanning of conversations for content." Plus, not only known existing CSAM, but also identifying new material. Because don't you trust machine learning that can't tell the difference between a cat and a ferret to know what is a…
> You have a photo of your child in the bathtub and the police smash down your door.
Reminder: Europe is not US.
Nobody can smash your door here without proper authorization from a court.
And even then, they would knock.
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
Mandating that the takedown go through this agency means states won't be able to hire private companies specialising in takedowns (and faster). Takedowns take way longer, which hurts the children.
>We found that the specialist contractors who take down phishing websites for banks would typically take six hours to remove an offending website, while the Internet Watch Foundation – which has a legal monopoly on taking down child-abuse material in the UK – would often take six weeks. [...] >So it’s really stupid for the European Commission to mandate centralised takedown by a police agency for the whole of Europe.…
> which has a legal monopoly on taking down child-abuse material in the UK
So basically a pr stunt from those who left the EU to feel better about themselves?