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My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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How many people in India had exactly the same idea at the same time? If 1 billion people suddenly all wanted to go to the same restaurant, or do anything that involves certain form of capacity, that system would collapse. Then, companies want to keep people under H1B as long as possible because H1B is a form of control.

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Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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"Given that managers are a dime a dozen in any country, it seems odd to put managers in the same category as people of “extraordinary ability,” but I digress." This is really important point in case anyone missed. The gross misuse of this rule to bring in project managers, account managers (L-1 based) and such have really made things worse for non L-1 immigrants by hogging most of green cards awarded per country basi…

I'm not sure that's a fair comparison - the rant about managers is concerning their special status in the highest priority EB1 category for Employment Based Green Cards, not L1 work visas. Or are you referring to L1 managers eventually working their way to EB1 Managers?

I am talking about L1A , people who are brought in as "International Managers" where in reality they are just some IT project managers doing daily scrum and crap. See here [1] for "Certain Multinational manager or executive" . Here is the definition:

"You must have been employed outside the United States for at least 1 year in the 3 years preceding the petition or the most recent lawful nonimmigrant admission if you are already working for the U.S. petitioning employer. The U.S. petitioner must have been doing business for at least 1 year, have a qualifying relationship to the entity you worked for outside the U.S., and intend to employ you in a managerial or executive capacity. "

Using this criteria, IT body shops are running wholesale scam.

1. https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/permanent...

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Two great American universities chose to admit this man. This isn’t some story about thundering hoards — he was invited to the country.

And shortly after he entered the country, studied and then worked for many years. Did he have to wait outside for 18 years? No. Was he prevented for working? No. Considering how saturated the system is, I see a working system and a happy person that lived, studied and worked in the US for 18 years.

Even if all that were true, why is this process so complicated it makes no sense.

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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I never understand this argument. If someone leaves their country to migrate, aren't they looking for a better life ? Just because India requires you to live for 12 years, Indian citizens should just shut up/put up with 18+ years of waiting because their country of origin has it worse/same ? This sounds a lot like "We gave you US citizenship. So shut up and stop criticizing the Govt because you came from a 3rd world…

Are foreign peoples entitled to US citizenship? Where is the obligation to make the process easy and open to everyone coming from?

the standard response here is to ask which native american tribe you're a member of.

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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I guess it's almost impossible to emigrate as a Junior to US being European, but I would like to know the opinion of someone that has experience in that. I would like to work there in my first years (don't want to spend my life there) but I see normal that no company would like to support a VISA for a Junior having a lot in the US. I know that some companies hire you for 1 year in Europe and then offer you move to Am…

If you are a European passport holder (yes, I know that is broad), you should try for the Diversity Immigrant Visa -- aka the Green Card Lottery. I had a German co-worker once who applied and got it. For wealthy European nations, it is not /super/ difficult to win this lottery, as there are so few applicants.

Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversity_Immigrant_Visa

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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In what part of the US Constitution are the white Americans identified as the essential majority for the country? This is a country that was founded through immigration, unlike China or India, so turning around and crying about becoming a minority just as you are enjoying the benefits of your ancestors migrating seems hypocritical.

Appealing to the history of immigration in the country doesn't diminish the GP's point as the US has discriminated against the origins and identities of immigrants since its founding. >The Naturalization Act of 1790 (1 Stat. 103, enacted March 26, 1790) was a law of the United States Congress that set the first uniform rules for the granting of United States citizenship by naturalization. The law limited naturalizati…

I’m confused by this … doesn’t “national origin discrimination” make sense in an immigration context. It’s reasonable to treat people from Canada different from people from, say, Litchtenstein.

I’m sure there’s some distinction I’m missing.

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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This is assuming that more immigration equals better. And even if one does think so, then the USA is doing "better" - by orders of magnitude. The Chinese and Indians are not set to become minorities in their own countries, are they? But thanks to immigration, white Americans practically already are [1], yet it is they that are called xenophobic. Double-standards doesn't begin to describe it. [1] https://www.brookings…

Again, if you want to resort to whataboutism that’s ok but I just want to point out that it’s hypocritical to then go around the world exporting “freedom” and “values” from an alleged high ground.

That's a strange definition of "freedom". Do countries that don't practice mass immigration not have "freedom"? To be free, one must allow one's national identity to be diluted into nothing?

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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The most important part of this hasn't even been mentioned yet. He is lucky to have even gotten this far. Most Indians don't. In fact, the default, like he mentions go in the 'Deportation parties'. Most Indians return, in fact nearly all. It's the luckier ones who make it even this far. As much as crazy this sound, I envy this guy. It's basically a giant life lottery.

> Most Indians return, in fact nearly all.

Source?

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Let me flip your question too: why do you think it matters?

>>>> Let me flip your question too: why do you think it matters? Sure, it matters because there are tens of millions of black, hispanic, and latino US citizens -- numerous with CS/STEM degrees -- who cannot get into FAANGs. Many end up in retail or as best buy tech squad reps or tmobile store salespersons. Yet we're told that someone from a foreign country is a better candidate for these FAANG jobs. In my experience,…

> Sure, it matters because there are tens of millions of black, hispanic, and latino US citizens -- numerous with CS/STEM degrees -- who cannot get into FAANGs.

FAANGs aren't discriminating against black, hispanic and latino US citizens. If someone can't get into FAANG its not because of their "race" or "citizenship", it's because they can't pass the hiring bar -- whether hiring is broken is another question, but hiring isn't biased against blacks latinos and hispanics.

> Many end up in retail or as best buy tech squad reps or tmobile store salespersons.

This comparison is disingenuous. Had you said they therefore have to work in the government sector as software engineers, I'd say you might have a point. But your comment reads as: "because they can't get a job as at FAANG they work at t-mobile as salespeople.

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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US immigration is in the biggest crisis in decades - between rhetoric & admin burden from Trump, covid, and ossified bureaucracy, it is the worst time in history for a tech worker to migrate to the US. Each time a developer works for the US from abroad, the US economy loses up to 50% o salaries in taxes for gov funding, and up to 80% of the reminder in spending within the economy. An argentine developer making 150k f…

Holy sh-t. What kind of country will you create with "zero taxes"? A sh-tty one! No one likes to pay high taxes, but there are almost no highly developed non-microstate nations with low taxes. (Even the Switzerland argument still has a bunch of holes when you look at the aggregate and include all levels of taxation.) How else can you pay for (subsidised) child care, health care, education, unemployment insurance, and national (old-age) pension? It costs a pretty penny.

And what Argentine devs are making 150K USD? Few.

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