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European Commission prefers breaking privacy to protecting kids

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Re: European Commission prefers breaking privacy to protecting kids

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> And it becomes obvious that child abuse websites stay up longer Versus > That is to enable the new agency to undermine end-to-end encryption by mandating client-side scanning This article needs to be clear about what these agencies are after: E2E encrypted messaging apps, or 'websites'. Because a messaging app is not a 'website'.

The way I understood it is: both

I might be totally mistaken though.

Re: European Commission prefers breaking privacy to protecting kids

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post #3

The four horsemen strike again. I think i 'll let this one pass. People should be inconvenienced enough to learn to use uncensorable platforms.

Yes, at this point of the internet, the fact that most people have decided to depend on big platforms and not develop properly all the distributed alternatives available for many years, it's hard to blame anybody except ourselves.

I'm interested though. Any starter guide?

Re: European Commission prefers breaking privacy to protecting kids

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post #3

The four horsemen strike again. I think i 'll let this one pass. People should be inconvenienced enough to learn to use uncensorable platforms.

Yes, at this point of the internet, the fact that most people have decided to depend on big platforms and not develop properly all the distributed alternatives available for many years, it's hard to blame anybody except ourselves.

I don't agree. "Ourselves"? Did I have a choice in my entire social network choosing to use Facebook and Twitter? Did I have a choice in LinkedIn being my best option for getting employment? No.

I talk about this stuff all the time. I blog [1] about it and complain about it to my family and friends until it gets annoying. And it _does not matter_ how much individual effort I put into this because people have no incentive to change.

1: https://nora.codes/post/deletefacebook-and-fosta/

Re: European Commission prefers breaking privacy to protecting kids

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, at this point of the internet, the fact that most people have decided to depend on big platforms and not develop properly all the distributed alternatives available for many years, it's hard to blame anybody except ourselves.

I'm interested though. Any starter guide?

Well, there's nothing properly developed, that's why we are still here. The basic building blocks are all there, cryptography for privacy and identity. p2p networks for data transfer have worked in the piracy world for many years too.

What is missing is putting it all together and be able to replicate the network effects you get from centralized media, like if you are able to reach one person, be able to reach in a simple way all of his friends as well (supposing they want to be reached).

Re: European Commission prefers breaking privacy to protecting kids

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post #3

The four horsemen strike again. I think i 'll let this one pass. People should be inconvenienced enough to learn to use uncensorable platforms.

> The four horsemen strike again. You mean this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_Infocalyp...

Thanks, I needed it.

Re: European Commission prefers breaking privacy to protecting kids

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, at this point of the internet, the fact that most people have decided to depend on big platforms and not develop properly all the distributed alternatives available for many years, it's hard to blame anybody except ourselves.

I don't agree. "Ourselves"? Did I have a choice in my entire social network choosing to use Facebook and Twitter? Did I have a choice in LinkedIn being my best option for getting employment? No. I talk about this stuff all the time. I blog [1] about it and complain about it to my family and friends until it gets annoying. And it _does not matter_ how much individual effort I put into this because people have no incen…

Yes, I think it's hard for normal people to use those networks because at this point they are unable to replicate the network effects of centralized media, as in there is no simple way of going from 1to1 communication and build from there to many-to-many.

But I think we people who are into tech should have coordinated more among ourselves that at least we used and helped to grow until they are mature enough for regular people.

Re: European Commission prefers breaking privacy to protecting kids

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Now that covid is waning, we're back to 'the kids' in order to allow governments absurd amounts of power over individuals. None of these excuses are put forth in order to further the argument, it's to create a trap for detractors and be able to label them as evil people, killing grandma, hating kids, supporting terror, etc etc.

We have a perfectly good war though.
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