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My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Post by geodel »

anyfactor wrote: post #114
ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #9

That's why the real hack is to live in Canada and work remotely for an American company.

I have a pro-cons list about immigrating to Canada. Why Canada ? - Getting a masters level education is much cheaper. - Immigration has less hoops to jump through. Specially if you are willing to live in the Atlantic side. - Great government and social benefits - I heard people are generally nicer. Why not Canada - - TAXES! TAXES! TAXES! - Canada is essentially the money laundering heaven [0] of North America. So buy…

I don't know if you care to be consistent:

> Great government and social benefits

> - TAXES! TAXES! TAXES!

are one and same thing. Unless you think benefits can just appear out of thin air. Or just that others must pay for all good stuff that you looking to get.

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Post by rajup »

car_analogy wrote: post #177
rajup wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those may be true, but I always assumed that the US of A aspires to do better, American exceptionalism, land of opportunity and all that jazz.

This is assuming that more immigration equals better. And even if one does think so, then the USA is doing "better" - by orders of magnitude. The Chinese and Indians are not set to become minorities in their own countries, are they? But thanks to immigration, white Americans practically already are [1], yet it is they that are called xenophobic. Double-standards doesn't begin to describe it. [1] https://www.brookings…

Again, if you want to resort to whataboutism that’s ok but I just want to point out that it’s hypocritical to then go around the world exporting “freedom” and “values” from an alleged high ground.

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Post by throwaway2037 »

BeetleB wrote: post #186
codegeek wrote: post #61

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I never understand this argument. If someone leaves their country to migrate, aren't they looking for a better life ? Just because India requires you to live for 12 years, Indian citizens should just shut up/put up with 18+ years of waiting because their country of origin has it worse/same ? This sounds a lot like "We gave you US citizenship. So shut up and stop criticizing the Govt because you came from a 3rd world…

I think it's simply fair to provide context and compare with other countries. While the US immigration process sucks compared to many countries, it very likely is in the top half of the world - most countries are simply worse. I've lived in places where you have a zero chance of getting permanent residency, let alone citizenship. Even if you marry a citizen. A friend of mine lives in a similar country. On paper there…

    I've lived in places where you have a zero chance of getting permanent residency, let alone citizenship. Even if you marry a citizen.
Could your share the places?

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Post by geodel »

screye wrote: post #101
meowtimemania wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Benefit is greater diversity. Rather than have majority of immigrants from hugely populated countries like China or India, immigrants are more evenly distributed from all around the world. The system obviously has big downsides to individuals from India/China. If it can be proved to US citizens that it’s in their interests to get rid of the cap, I think it will be gone.

What makes arbitrary geographic borders markers of diversity ? The language, religious practices, food, festivals and traditions change every 100 miles in India. It is an old civilization with as much or more diversity than all of Europe. Small countries like Belgium, Netherlands and Austria can balkanize and claim diversity over minor differences. Yet, Indians are clumped together under 1 umbrella ? How does that ma…

What makes skin color marker of diversity ? This is world we live in.

India can have diversity claims if they let individual states in India their passports, languages, flags and so on. It's on them to show diversity before expecting others to appreciate it.

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Post by valarauko »

geodel wrote: post #170

"Given that managers are a dime a dozen in any country, it seems odd to put managers in the same category as people of “extraordinary ability,” but I digress." This is really important point in case anyone missed. The gross misuse of this rule to bring in project managers, account managers (L-1 based) and such have really made things worse for non L-1 immigrants by hogging most of green cards awarded per country basi…

I'm not sure that's a fair comparison - the rant about managers is concerning their special status in the highest priority EB1 category for Employment Based Green Cards, not L1 work visas. Or are you referring to L1 managers eventually working their way to EB1 Managers?

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Post by rajup »

car_analogy wrote: post #177
rajup wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those may be true, but I always assumed that the US of A aspires to do better, American exceptionalism, land of opportunity and all that jazz.

This is assuming that more immigration equals better. And even if one does think so, then the USA is doing "better" - by orders of magnitude. The Chinese and Indians are not set to become minorities in their own countries, are they? But thanks to immigration, white Americans practically already are [1], yet it is they that are called xenophobic. Double-standards doesn't begin to describe it. [1] https://www.brookings…

Also I’m not sure what the race or being a minority or majority demographic has to do with being xenophobic? Pretty sure there are Indian and Chinese xenophobes in the USA as well.

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Post by quantumwannabe »

polygamous_bat wrote: post #197
car_analogy wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is assuming that more immigration equals better. And even if one does think so, then the USA is doing "better" - by orders of magnitude. The Chinese and Indians are not set to become minorities in their own countries, are they? But thanks to immigration, white Americans practically already are [1], yet it is they that are called xenophobic. Double-standards doesn't begin to describe it. [1] https://www.brookings…

In what part of the US Constitution are the white Americans identified as the essential majority for the country? This is a country that was founded through immigration, unlike China or India, so turning around and crying about becoming a minority just as you are enjoying the benefits of your ancestors migrating seems hypocritical.

Appealing to the history of immigration in the country doesn't diminish the GP's point as the US has discriminated against the origins and identities of immigrants since its founding.

>The Naturalization Act of 1790 (1 Stat. 103, enacted March 26, 1790) was a law of the United States Congress that set the first uniform rules for the granting of United States citizenship by naturalization. The law limited naturalization to "free White person(s) ... of good character", thus excluding Native Americans, indentured servants, slaves, free black people and later Asians, although free black people were allowed citizenship at the state level in a number of states. [1]

Race based citizenship remained the law until United States v. Wong Kim Ark (1898) [2] where the Supreme Court interpreted the "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" clause of the 14th Amendment to meant that anyone physically born in the country was automatically granted citizenship. Race-neutral naturalization wasn't enacted until the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 [3] and racial discrimination and national original based immigration (not permanent residency as should be obvious) controls weren't banned until the Hart–Celler Act in 1965 [4].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalization_Act_of_1790

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Ac...

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Ac...

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Post by sdfhdhjdw3 »

nebula8804 wrote: post #159
renewiltord wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have friends in each of these categories who are skilled, I’ll interview them. Job is onsite in San Francisco. Interview is leetcode style plus software design. Since it isn’t based primarily on past experience, it won’t matter that they haven’t had opportunity if they do have the skills. I’m in HFT. Only hire people I’d consider capable and I’m comfortable with our interview process. If they knock the intervi…

Nobody wants to work for your crappy startup. What you are asking for requires a lot of sacrifice and investment (living in an overpriced dump called SF, leetcode interviews, dealing with people like you) for not enough benefits hence thats why you rely on outside "help".

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Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Post by geodel »

vpl0512 wrote: post #133

I am sailing in the same boat. Except that I am still waiting to be liberated with a Green Card. Its outrageous that there is still a big racism on the name of "Per-country" caps for a common-sense high skilled immigration system in the country like USA who makes a tall claim of being "Equal-Opportunity" country. A Pizza-delivery guy from Non-India/Non-Chinese place of birth can get his citizenship before atleast a d…

LOL. I could sympathize otherwise.

But here this could be case of of person less talented the pizza delivery person, having very classist attitude, looking to settle in explicitly racist country by their own admission.

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Post by codegeek »

jaywalk wrote: post #193
codegeek wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So what about Basketball ? Should there be more whites ? Is that skewed by design ? Have you ever thought about the various factors behind why a certain group dominates certain fields or you just think it is unfair and on purpose ?

It's funny that you bring up sports, because one of the hot topics in the sports world right now is that there should be less whites in many positions, from coaching to ownership. It's supposed to be accepted as fact that if there are a lot of non-whites somewhere, it's simply because they're better. But if there are a lot of whites somewhere, it's because of racism.

You didn't answer my question though and deflected. I am not talking about whites being discriminated (thats a separate topic). I am discussing the "skewed" comment you made. Why do you think Basketball has less whites ? Let me add a few more. Why do you think a lot of Gas Stations are owned by Asians ? Why do you think a lot of Landscapers are hispanics/Latinos/South Americans ?
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