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My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Post by screye »

meowtimemania wrote: post #65
0xcafecafe wrote: post #27

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Why though? If Google is hiring an engineer, it doesn't make a distinction and does so purely on skill. Why should it matter if said engineer is from Argentina (arbitrary example) instead of India? The US issues roughly 1 million green cards each year. 86% of those go to family based immigration. The rest 14% are for employment based immigration. Even in there the dependents (spouse + kids) are counted against that q…

Benefit is greater diversity. Rather than have majority of immigrants from hugely populated countries like China or India, immigrants are more evenly distributed from all around the world. The system obviously has big downsides to individuals from India/China. If it can be proved to US citizens that it’s in their interests to get rid of the cap, I think it will be gone.

What makes arbitrary geographic borders markers of diversity ?

The language, religious practices, food, festivals and traditions change every 100 miles in India. It is an old civilization with as much or more diversity than all of Europe.

Small countries like Belgium, Netherlands and Austria can balkanize and claim diversity over minor differences. Yet, Indians are clumped together under 1 umbrella ? How does that make sense ?

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Post by throw123123123 »

meowtimemania wrote: post #78
throw123123123 wrote: post #10

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What doesn't make sense is putting limits whatsoever.

Why does it not make sense? Imagine you have factory workers making 15$ an hour and a company decides to import labor to work at 10$ an hour because there’s “no limits” to immigration. The government should act in the interests of its citizens.

It's in the interest of citizens to get their goods at the cheapest price. Thats why you have imports, which is no less than importing the produce of labor.

With people, you have the added benefit that if people working within your country they spend and consume in your country.

Countries all over the world fight each other for talent, and the US immigration system is doing to itself what other countries spend money to prevent.

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Post by 29athrowaway »

shuckles wrote: post #94
29athrowaway wrote: post #41

How many people in India had exactly the same idea at the same time? If 1 billion people suddenly all wanted to go to the same restaurant, or do anything that involves certain form of capacity, that system would collapse. Then, companies want to keep people under H1B as long as possible because H1B is a form of control.

Two great American universities chose to admit this man. This isn’t some story about thundering hoards — he was invited to the country.

And shortly after he entered the country, studied and then worked for many years.

Did he have to wait outside for 18 years? No. Was he prevented for working? No.

Considering how saturated the system is, I see a working system and a happy person that lived, studied and worked in the US for 18 years.

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Post by magtux »

b112 wrote: post #89
magtux wrote: post #56

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Are you responsible for everything your Government does ? I would hope not. People need to be treated individually. I thought that was the entire point of liberal democracy.

Yes! You are responsible, but more like responsible for the actions of your child, or, an object you own like a house. You are not at fault , if you are a good parent, or if you maintain your house well. So if the child breaks the law, or damages something, if the house has a weakness not known but someone gets injured, you are responsible. But the due dilligence, such as disciplining, teaching, and trying to instill…

My man, I hope you're not American because the world has a laundry list of complaints against America. People care about different things to different degrees. You compromise on who you think is the closest to your positions. In a country of 1.3B people, there is always divergence of opinion and in fact nearly no-one would have even thought about immigration as a concern when voting.

There is a difference between the personal things you can influence and being the 1/13000000th voice of the people.

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Post by [deleted] »

PuppyTailWags wrote: post #85
yardie wrote: post #66

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My boss made sure to have his kids in the US before going back to his home country where the extended family can help raise them.

Yep, unfortunately this is a known strategy so if one is pregnant and trying to go to the states (like a vacation or business, unrelated to birth) immigration will give you a ton of shit.

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Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Post by 0xcafecafe »

29athrowaway wrote: post #41

How many people in India had exactly the same idea at the same time? If 1 billion people suddenly all wanted to go to the same restaurant, or do anything that involves certain form of capacity, that system would collapse. Then, companies want to keep people under H1B as long as possible because H1B is a form of control.

But if that same restaurant started having different wait times for something as arbitrary as country of birth, we would have a problem.

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Post by corderop »

I guess it's almost impossible to emigrate as a Junior to US being European, but I would like to know the opinion of someone that has experience in that. I would like to work there in my first years (don't want to spend my life there) but I see normal that no company would like to support a VISA for a Junior having a lot in the US.

I know that some companies hire you for 1 year in Europe and then offer you move to America, but they are usually big companies where it's difficult to get hired.

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Post by shuckles »

29athrowaway wrote: post #103
shuckles wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Two great American universities chose to admit this man. This isn’t some story about thundering hoards — he was invited to the country.

And shortly after he entered the country, studied and then worked for many years. Did he have to wait outside for 18 years? No. Was he prevented for working? No. Considering how saturated the system is, I see a working system and a happy person that lived, studied and worked in the US for 18 years.

You keep claiming the system is “at capacity” with no evidence, and the psychological trauma it inflicts as inevitable. How does it strain the system differently to process an Indian applicant than an Australian one?

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Post by Miraste »

someotherperson wrote: post #55

Even going to the US as a non-immigrant is totally broken at the moment. If you don't qualify[0] for an ESTA (visa waiver) then an appointment for a tourist visa in the US can be upwards of 200 days in some places (i.e Australia or Netherlands). An appointment at the consulate in Toronto is 429 days away if you were to book today. That's not the processing time, that's literally just the appointment you need to make…

It's probably working as designed. Most people in ESTA countries qualify. The list of country visits that disqualifies you is North Korea, Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, and Yemen, all places where the US is hostile to the government or a major indigenous rebel/terrorist organization. The US government won't ban you outright for going there, but they're happy to deprioritize you.

Compare with China, a non-ESTA country that makes the US a lot of money. The wait time for a visa appointment in Beijing is two days.

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Post by tut-urut-utut »

weatherlite wrote: post #84
vgatherps wrote: post #45

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If I was born in a country with an extremely bad immigration system, I lose the right to complain about the bad-but-maybe-not-as-bad immigration system in another country that I'm trying to immigrate to?

In a lot of people's eyes yes. Many people resent immigrants complaining even if the complaints are justified.

> Many people resent immigrants

FTFY

Many people don't need a reason to resent immigrants, they just use anything they can use as an excuse.

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