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My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Post by np- »

robinsoh wrote: post #33
zolosa wrote: post #5

Indians account for 73.9 percent out of the total number of H1B visa holders in the USA. Now i wouldn't want anyone to be discriminated but still it makes sense to limit green card based on nationality

> Now i wouldn't want anyone to be discriminated but still it makes sense to limit green card based on nationality You're saying you want people to be discriminated by nationality. Correct?

Not the op, but to be pedantic, every single international border crossing in the world is an official government “nationality discrimination” department. That’s what passports are for. (Not saying I necessarily agree with this, but it is the world we live in)

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Post by throw123123123 »

fallingknife wrote: post #34
throw123123123 wrote: post #13

US immigration is in the biggest crisis in decades - between rhetoric & admin burden from Trump, covid, and ossified bureaucracy, it is the worst time in history for a tech worker to migrate to the US. Each time a developer works for the US from abroad, the US economy loses up to 50% o salaries in taxes for gov funding, and up to 80% of the reminder in spending within the economy. An argentine developer making 150k f…

So I should want companies to be able to import cheaper workers from abroad and drive down my salary via supply and demand, and all so the government can get more tax revenue? No thanks.

Companies still do that by hiring abroad and importing goods from abroad. You will surprised to know most of the things you consume in the US are imported.

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Post by keyme »

someotherperson wrote: post #55

Even going to the US as a non-immigrant is totally broken at the moment. If you don't qualify[0] for an ESTA (visa waiver) then an appointment for a tourist visa in the US can be upwards of 200 days in some places (i.e Australia or Netherlands). An appointment at the consulate in Toronto is 429 days away if you were to book today. That's not the processing time, that's literally just the appointment you need to make…

Even with a tourist visa that I got years back it isn't smooth going into the USA anymore (as a shithole-country passport holder). I went many times, but last time I got "the room", for absolutely no reason, and nothing was asked of me but the standard questions. It only took hours in an intimidating setting.

USA, you're just another country. Next time I'll take my tourist money elsewhere.

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Post by shuckles »

29athrowaway wrote: post #41

How many people in India had exactly the same idea at the same time? If 1 billion people suddenly all wanted to go to the same restaurant, or do anything that involves certain form of capacity, that system would collapse. Then, companies want to keep people under H1B as long as possible because H1B is a form of control.

Two great American universities chose to admit this man. This isn’t some story about thundering hoards — he was invited to the country.

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Post by throw123123123 »

melony wrote: post #20
throw123123123 wrote: post #13

US immigration is in the biggest crisis in decades - between rhetoric & admin burden from Trump, covid, and ossified bureaucracy, it is the worst time in history for a tech worker to migrate to the US. Each time a developer works for the US from abroad, the US economy loses up to 50% o salaries in taxes for gov funding, and up to 80% of the reminder in spending within the economy. An argentine developer making 150k f…

Doesn't the US have tax agreements with most countries? You still have to pay tax on US income.

No you don't. It would be a tariff to do so.

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Post by 0xcafecafe »

raverbashing wrote: post #70
0xcafecafe wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why though? If Google is hiring an engineer, it doesn't make a distinction and does so purely on skill. Why should it matter if said engineer is from Argentina (arbitrary example) instead of India? The US issues roughly 1 million green cards each year. 86% of those go to family based immigration. The rest 14% are for employment based immigration. Even in there the dependents (spouse + kids) are counted against that q…

The purpose is twofold: diversity of origins and the fact that there are 1.3Bi Indians for 300Mi Americans Diveristy actually means not getting everybody from the same place, being that inside or outside the US

We are talking about 14% of the total annual green card quota, 140,000/1,000,000.Everybody is not coming from same place and it will be a pure FCFS system if these archaic quotas are gone.

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Post by enriquec »

jaywalk wrote: post #52
d3nj4l wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me flip your question too: why do you think it matters?

Because all else being equal, that skew shouldn't exist. There is nothing inherent to Indian people (or any other people) making them better at these jobs, so there is value to understanding why their numbers are so high. And by value, I mean value to US citizens. It could show us how we can improve within the country, or it could expose fraud in the system. Or a mix of both.

This is just obviously and factually wrong. Even average age differs greatly between countries. Why would they have the same degrees/skills/value? You just want to chop down the forest because trees are different heights - you're optimizing for nothing based on nothing.

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Post by Bhilai »

twofornone wrote: post #72
codegeek wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never understand this argument. If someone leaves their country to migrate, aren't they looking for a better life ? Just because India requires you to live for 12 years, Indian citizens should just shut up/put up with 18+ years of waiting because their country of origin has it worse/same ? This sounds a lot like "We gave you US citizenship. So shut up and stop criticizing the Govt because you came from a 3rd world…

Are foreign peoples entitled to US citizenship? Where is the obligation to make the process easy and open to everyone coming from?

Unless you are a native Indian I am going to assume if your grand parents immigrated to this country and become citizens here, yes?

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Post by valarauko »

UncleMeat wrote: post #53
vsskanth wrote: post #25

The interesting part here is he finally got his green card after 18 years only because he married an Australian citizen and wasn’t blocked by the county quota anymore. Imagine how frustrating it must be being qualified, living in the country for decades and still blocked from residency all because you were born somewhere, it’s something you have no control over

I know a professor of computer science at arguably the best cs program in the world who is an Indian citizen and was only able to get a green card because he is married to a citizen of a western european country. The system is completely fucked for Indian and Chinese citizens. Absolutely egregiously so. This is one of the reasons why I find the "just wait in line" argument so disingenuous. If it takes a world expert…

> If it takes a world expert in a high importance topics literal decades to get a green card

For what it's worth, sounds like the professor would have qualified under the EB1A/B scheme, which even for Indians is "Current". The qualifications are not very hard to meet for someone working as a professor, or even a postdoctoral researcher.

Re: My journey through the American immigration system as a computer engineer

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Post by enriquec »

illplaythatgame wrote: post #77
d3nj4l wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me flip your question too: why do you think it matters?

>>>> Let me flip your question too: why do you think it matters? Sure, it matters because there are tens of millions of black, hispanic, and latino US citizens -- numerous with CS/STEM degrees -- who cannot get into FAANGs. Many end up in retail or as best buy tech squad reps or tmobile store salespersons. Yet we're told that someone from a foreign country is a better candidate for these FAANG jobs. In my experience,…

So you're saying the hiring process is racist?
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