Is there just a different set of free speech rules for the rich and powerful? If I incited violence on the platform, I doubt Elon or Dorsey would be letting me come back after a ban.
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Mayor of chicago said yesterday overturning roe vs wade is a call to arms. Still on twitter.
Everyone in American politics uses fight metaphors.
Not every political movement erects a gallows outside the Capitol and then breaks and enters to look for legislators and the Vice President to hang.
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I doubt Thiel is some kind of central master mind behind all this. Musk seems quite independently driven and probably found this a necessary move with only minor chats with thiel (if any). I'm not sure Thiel has any more or less influence than Sam Altman or Paul Graham.
If someone makes you rich and successful with their business advice and you work with them for multiple years, would you ignore their phone call in the future and ignore their other suggestions? It’s not about being a master mind, there is soft power in play, humans are social animals.
Thiel (+ the rest of the board) fired Musk from his CEO position at PayPal.
I'm pretty sure Musk would ignore any phone calls from Thiel.
Furthermore, Thiel didn't make Musk rich. When PayPal was sold to eBay Musk was the single largest shareholder of PayPal, which should tell you who was the most responsible for PayPal's success.
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I fully support suspensions, particularly in this case. However, I don't believe a permanent ban for illegal activity is ever warranted, and particularly not in cases where (unfortunately) no guilty verdict was ever given.
I think it's fundamentally not an issue with right/left politics but of subtle philosophical differences over speech, society, and technology. If twitter has a certain form of monopoly on some aspect of public discourse then it's (arguably) in the public good to keep people on it by default. "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer" kind of thinking.
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I doubt Thiel is some kind of central master mind behind all this. Musk seems quite independently driven and probably found this a necessary move with only minor chats with thiel (if any). I'm not sure Thiel has any more or less influence than Sam Altman or Paul Graham.
"Elon Musk Reacts To WSJ Report That 'Shadow Crew' Of Billionaires Including Peter Thiel Pushed Him To Buy Twitter" https://www.benzinga.com/news/22/05/26922872/elon-musk-wants... "A source who spoke to both men said that Musk thinks Thiel is "a sociopath," and Thiel considers Musk "a fraud."" https://www.businessinsider.com/peter-thiel-elon-musk-relati...
Wouldn't that be what is beneficial for them to say about each other, in public? I honestly don't know what to think any more about anyone who has obtained massive amounts of money.
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If someone makes you rich and successful with their business advice and you work with them for multiple years, would you ignore their phone call in the future and ignore their other suggestions? It’s not about being a master mind, there is soft power in play, humans are social animals.
If somebody truly creates value out of thin air, then they deserve to be heard.
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People can't change mind?
They can it's just typically called hypocrisy.
That is not what hypocrisy means.
Hypocrisy has nothing to do with changing your mind over time. It had to do with taking actions which are consistent with your stated position, and holding yourself up to the same moral and ethical standards to which you hold others.
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Innocent until proven guilty. AFAIK Trump has not been convicted of any "illegal activity" in that regard.
He's been proven guilty. He did it on live tv. The fact that he still has enough political power to avoid execution for sedition, or any responsibility whatsoever for this crime, does not have any effect on the truth value of my statement.
>”He's been proven guilty. He did it on live tv.”
Proven guilty in the court of public perception, perhaps, but certainly not in a court of law.