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No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by crvdgc »

nonrandomstring wrote: post #2

YouTube is still useful. It's a giant repository of videos that get indexed by search engines. The way to use it is: 1) know what you want to watch beforehand 2) search using a different engine like DDG 3) use yt-dl to grab the video and watch offline The mistake would be to "log in" to the actual site, and click on the "recommended" rubbish and all that algorithmic cruft to manipulate, data-mine your soul and mislea…

There's https://unhook.app/ to remove recommendation elements (front page feed, side bar recommendations, etc.). I use it to leave only the search bar and my subscription feed. YouTube feels so much better.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by mh- »

alexb_ wrote: post #450
mh- wrote: post #380

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't find any reputable source or even credible estimate about the total number of videos on YouTube. What I did find, though, is that YouTube currently touts[1] "500+ hours of content uploaded every minute", which means 43.2 million minutes of video per day if we take that claim at face value. And a study finding the average video length was 11.7 minutes[2] in 2018. So, naively doing the math suggests that YouTub…

Fair enough - I literally just googled "how many videos on youtube" and stuck with the first result. Not very scientific but I also don't really care that much

Yeah, I just got curious after seeing the reply to your comment. Hadn't really thought about it prior.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by sircastor »

I have never used the dislike button. Ever. Not too choose which videos to watch, and not to vote on the quality of a video.

I find that the YouTube algorithm seems to work for me in waves. For a month or two it’ll be great, then it’ll suck, then it’ll be great again. Not really sure what drives that (including if it’s just my own biases) but it’s not new.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by TheMode »

ars wrote: post #308
smaryjerry wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not interested button is a placeabo type button, completely useless, isn’t it? Do you know how many hundreds of times I’ve not interested late night talk show hosts with no stop to their constant recommendation in my feed.

The only way to dislike those videos is to click them. If you click them it means you like that topic. If you actually don't want then then don't click them in the first place and in about a month they will stop showing up.

"and in about a month they will stop showing up." Such a great experience

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by Wxc2jjJmST9XWWL »

I'm not sure if it's the dislike button being gone or just more and more brain-dead people passively consuming content. A lot of the videos is other re-hashed online content, but hasn't it been this trajectory for years now though?

It seems like humanity is going mass-illiterate and needs everything in video-format. How video has displaced text is horrific to me. Instead of reading the official docs people browse "How to install..." videos, that are mostly poor and just someone babbling non-sense.

I would never for the life of me look up tech info, error messages etc on Youtube in the first place. But since people look up everything apparently, other people cater to it. A click is a click is a click.

Slightly off-topic maybe: I've blocked most of the interface of Youtube via ublock origin long ago. Youtube's homepage is only a search-bar for me. When looking at videos I see no suggestions, I use the "Enhancer for Youtube" Add-on to disable auto-play, disable comments and auto-expand video descriptions, use "Cookie Auto Delete" Add-on to always clear my cookies when I leave the site and am never logged into the site in the first place.

In case someone doesn't know, you can follow youtube-channels via rss, it's https://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id=

You can find the channel ID by going to a video and then clicking on the channel, channel ID is in the URL. I think it's far superior than subscribing any normal way. Let saving links be handled by the rss reader of your choice.

For search engine results, people here might also want to consider https://github.com/quenhus/uBlock-Origin-dev-filter

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by walderf »

alexb_ wrote: post #105

I've recently heard about this YouTube account named Roel Van De Paar. If you've looked up any error message on YouTube recently, you've probably run into him. Because of the "no dislikes" change, he's everywhere now. And by everywhere, I mean EVERYWHERE. The account has over 2 million videos. Approximately 0.2% of ALL videos on the ENTIRE platform of YouTube can be attributed to this account, and if you check now th…

i learned about him a few days ago. it's logical to me that "Roel Van de Paar" is not the name of a real person and the person shown in the clip on each video (granted, i only watched two, but i think it's the same for every single one) is either deep faked or just a random that got paid $21.50 to read a script on camera.

then i found this https://github.com/roelvdp in my searching and it kind of made things a little bit more interesting. i didn't look at a side-by-side of the man in the video and the man in the photo here, but from memory they looked like they could be similar enough to be the same person with somewhat of an age gap between time's taken. they also look different enough to be different people. that's not what's weird, though. most of his contributions are for private repos and a lot of his "repositories" are forks from projects involved with machine/deep learning, AI, databases, and all sorts of stuff that someone smarter than me would know what it does or is used for, but they go back 2014ish.

i didn't spend more than a few minutes "investigating" and sure didn't touch any of his videos with my own IP/logged in user, because my YT recommendations are screwed up enough. either way, i think the github account is probably whoever is behind this, well, pretty amazing feat, at this point. i hate it, but you just can't deny that it's actually going on and has been for a LONG time. that's respectable in a sense. i did the math for a 10 hour period in which i counted roughly 240 new videos and it equated to an upload every 2 minutes. impressive, right? well, if this were true that would mean only 262800 videos a year and he has uploaded 1 million since ~March 2021, based on some search results i found where "people" were celebrating his 1M mark. heh.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by walderf »

the_only_law wrote: post #224
alexb_ wrote: post #105

I've recently heard about this YouTube account named Roel Van De Paar. If you've looked up any error message on YouTube recently, you've probably run into him. Because of the "no dislikes" change, he's everywhere now. And by everywhere, I mean EVERYWHERE. The account has over 2 million videos. Approximately 0.2% of ALL videos on the ENTIRE platform of YouTube can be attributed to this account, and if you check now th…

Is this guy making income from doing this? I may have to re-evaluate my career if I can pay my rent by mostly just dumping random internet content into a video.

yes and approximately $2000-6000 a month. those numbers could fluctuate a great deal either way. there's no set "pay scale" and nobody really knows how it works.

take the info on this site with a grain of salt, but... https://socialblade.com/youtube/c/roelvandepaar

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by colejohnson66 »

hbbio wrote: post #200
alexb_ wrote: post #105

I've recently heard about this YouTube account named Roel Van De Paar. If you've looked up any error message on YouTube recently, you've probably run into him. Because of the "no dislikes" change, he's everywhere now. And by everywhere, I mean EVERYWHERE. The account has over 2 million videos. Approximately 0.2% of ALL videos on the ENTIRE platform of YouTube can be attributed to this account, and if you check now th…

Obviously, the guy is just ripping StackOverflow. His "latest" video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtqJq0OF8eA Is a poorly generated copy/paste of: https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/1644... Probably a tiny Python script. Google is prompt to ban other accounts, hope some Googlers around here can can do something...

1,950,208 videos!?

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by colejohnson66 »

shinryuu wrote: post #444
hbbio wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obviously, the guy is just ripping StackOverflow. His "latest" video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtqJq0OF8eA Is a poorly generated copy/paste of: https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/questions/1644... Probably a tiny Python script. Google is prompt to ban other accounts, hope some Googlers around here can can do something...

Stackexchange answers are creative commons share-alike by attribution, so as long as he would give attribution he'd be in the clear. https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/347758/creative-com...

I think GP's point isn't that he's violating SE's license, but that he has almost two million videos with new ones uploaded about every three minutes. And his videos are constantly recommended to GP.
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