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The End of Industrial Society

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Re: The End of Industrial Society

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So... The US and Europe haven't stopped being manufacturing hubs. The kind of manufacturing changed to high end goods, and automation has greatly decreased the amount of labor involved. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manufacturing_in_the_United_... the thesis is only possible if all you look at are the cheapest consumer goods, where moving to places with the lowest cost labor is a necessity.

A common criticism of that high level view of US manufacturing is that it is a bit of a lie, and a lot of it is about hedonic adjustments for new Intel chips being faster than old ones. Without that, the graph of manufacturing output in dollars looks like a steady downward slope from the year 2000 on.

got a link to someone actually arguing that with data?

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Mind to provide some recommendation of "serious publications"? Academic journals would be fine as well. I want to learn more about the politcal theory and relevant social economic grand thinking and mechanisms design.

Jacobin!

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Please stop using HN for generic ideological battle. It's repetitive, tedious, not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

We've had to ask you this multiple times before. Not cool.

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Edit: since your account has clearly been using HN primarily (maybe even exclusively) for ideological battle, and that's the line at which we ban accounts, I've banned this one.

For past explanations about why we draw the line this way, see https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme.... We do this regardless of which ideology an account is battling for or against—it's tedious and destructive of what HN is for, irrespective of which side people are on.

If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future.

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Please stop using HN for ideological battle. It's repetitive, tedious, not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

We've also had to ask you this multiple times before. Also not cool.

Since it doesn't look like you've been using HN primarily for this, I haven't banned your account, but if you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the intended spirit—regardless of how wrong other commenters are or you feel they are—we'd appreciate it.

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Please stop posting ideological flamewar comments to HN. We ban accounts that do this. It's not what the site is for, and it destroys what it is for.

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Please stop using HN for ideological battle. It's repetitive, tedious, not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. We've also had to ask you this multiple times before. Also not cool. Since it doesn't look like you've been using HN primarily for this, I haven't banned your account, but if you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the intended spirit—regardless of ho…

I do try to remain more tone-neutral on the political threads, but it seems like no matter the degree to which you try to be well reasoned or diplomatic it just draws angry responses. But at the same time, the status quo of startup politics goes unchallenged under the rules (ie, neoliberal or libertarian perspectives) - so it's a matter of just let those perspectives go unchallenged even when there are level headed arguments to be made, or make the argument and risk people getting mad and then me getting banned for "flaming". I'm genuinely unsure what good answer there is, because this isn't an un-political forum (at least, not so much nowadays it would seem). Do we just ignore Thiel's fascistic tendencies in a thread surrounding one of his political projects?

I'm not expecting a reply because I know moderating this place must keep you busy, but it's a legitimate bind and the guidelines aren't very instructive. From an intent perspective, I'm not trying to sling mud, I think legitimate discussion of political perspectives is interesting and important.

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