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No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by Ensorceled »

im3w1l wrote: post #283
Ensorceled wrote: post #207

I feel like every recommendation engine has tanked in 2022 along with a matching upswing in ads. Audible is aggressively recommending an audiobook I already bought and listened to, it's even in their "your year so far" list because I listened to it in January. Their 2-for-1, annual, special offer emails are coming 2-3 a week now. My Facebook timeline is full of crappy "Suggested for you" entries. I doom scrolled last…

Having more and more ads sounds like an end of market cycle thing. Like when there are no more billions of untapped users, but you have to show revenue growth, so you crank up the ads to an unsustainable number and sneak towards the exit before it all comes tumbling down.

Facebook definitely has that feel to it. The engagement in our family Facebook groups are way down.

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Post by zaphar »

li2uR3ce wrote: post #291

Bookmark your subscription page and accept that your discovery process will have to not rely on YT's algorithms. They are not designed for your expedience. Also turn off auto play. A big part of their algorithm is keeping you on the site longer. It does this by showing you many low quality suggestions (because most people will sift through and consume them) before getting to the higher quality videos. Then, just befo…

I was just checking the comments to see if anyone had already said this. I never look at the home page on Youtube. I only look at the subscription page. I occasionally add subscriptions by following recommendations from the creators, comments on the video I'm watching or by word of mouth. The home page is essentially worthless for me.

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Post by TheFreim »

corobo wrote: post #284
brador wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If he’s disseminating and distributing solutions I don’t see the problem with it other than jealousy. It’s helpful and helps prevent information rot if a platform goes down.

For me at least the main problem isn't so much this person/channel, you can always tell YouTube to stop suggesting a channel. It's the people that now realise this is something YouTube allows (or at least doesn't seem to care about). For a similar issue there was a plague of "Reply girls" for a while https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reply_girl

Relating to reply girls, I really loved YouTube's video response feature. It's understandable why it went away, but it was still really cool to be able to find responses to videos. Now if I watch a video arguing for X and want to see a response I have to search "Response to X" or "X rebutted" etc.

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Post by smaryjerry »

frosted-flakes wrote: post #133
dataengineer56 wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I explicitly downvote videos that aren't directly relevant to what I want to keep seeing. This does mean that I often downvote videos that I've enjoyed, such as useful product reviews for something that I'm buying. This keeps my recommendations relatively clean.

That's what the Not Interested button is for.

Not interested button is a placeabo type button, completely useless, isn’t it? Do you know how many hundreds of times I’ve not interested late night talk show hosts with no stop to their constant recommendation in my feed.

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Post by rasz »

asddubs wrote: post #37

get the extension "BlockTube" and block any channel that does this. after a while your feed will get noticably better. People are saying not to click but IMO it doesn't work that well. I make a point of never clicking on any video title like that, and still kept getting flooded My favorite pattern is saying "THIS" and withholding what exactly the video is about - once I saw it used twice in a title and it just cracke…

TheSoul Publishing (russian disinformation platform masquerading as 5 minute craft life hacks) employs over 2100 people and has over 100 channels. and thats just one of the garbage manufacturers on YT.

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Post by quxbar »

I found a bunch of fascinating old videos by the San Diego Opera recently, as well as a (new to me) niche of custom mechanical keyboard channels, some of which are brilliantly funny.

Youtube is not trying to serve you good content, but it's helpful for finding new things if you vary your media diet a bit.

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Post by otikik »

Abandon the "home" page. It's dead.

Subscribe to enough creators of your liking that have around 2 or 3 new videos per day (or whatever rate is appropriate for you) and only use the "Subscribed" tab.

If you somehow end up in the home page, you might have lost dislike but you still have "Don't recommend this channel".

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by ars »

smaryjerry wrote: post #304
frosted-flakes wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's what the Not Interested button is for.

Not interested button is a placeabo type button, completely useless, isn’t it? Do you know how many hundreds of times I’ve not interested late night talk show hosts with no stop to their constant recommendation in my feed.

The only way to dislike those videos is to click them. If you click them it means you like that topic.

If you actually don't want then then don't click them in the first place and in about a month they will stop showing up.

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Post by eschulz »

docmars wrote: post #249

I'm still convinced that YouTube removed the dislike button because political content related to pro-vaccine propaganda from corporate media sources (sponsored by Pfizer by the way), and specifically the White House's channel, were receiving a flood of dislikes because people genuinely are upset with this administration and the overtly irresponsible corporations they openly embrace (approval ratings at an all time lo…

I'm not sure the vaccine and covid stuff had a big part in the removal of the dislike button, but I too consider the disappearance of video dislikes to be a specific trait of the Biden era.

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Post by otikik »

charcircuit wrote: post #118
pieno wrote: post #77

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> Also, subscribe to a channel, get recommended their entire repertoire of the last decade. I have stopped subscribing, and I'm actively unsubscribing from most channels except the very small ones that post twice a year and I don't want to miss. I fear that there is a very big group (that is usually not on HN) that actually likes this. People who get absolutely hyped on some new channel and just have to watch everyth…

This recently happened to me. I discovered someone's channel and it turned out to be a gold mine of content that I had somehow never heard of. I didn't even have to subscribe and it would recommend me banger videos from the guy.

The same happened to me with Tom Cardy.
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