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No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by Beltalowda »

pieno wrote: post #77
sph wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Recommending tons of videos I've already seen or recommending really, really old videos from people I normally watch. It's always done this, but it seems worse recently. Also, subscribe to a channel, get recommended their entire repertoire of the last decade. I have stopped subscribing, and I'm actively unsubscribing from most channels except the very small ones that post twice a year and I don't want to miss. What…

> Also, subscribe to a channel, get recommended their entire repertoire of the last decade. I have stopped subscribing, and I'm actively unsubscribing from most channels except the very small ones that post twice a year and I don't want to miss. I fear that there is a very big group (that is usually not on HN) that actually likes this. People who get absolutely hyped on some new channel and just have to watch everyth…

YouTube actually makes it quite hard to "completely watch" a channel; there's some channels that I just "discovered" and published interesting content over the years and ideally I'd just like to start at the start and watch stuff from their backlog that looks interesting. But with the stupid non-pagination "infinite scroll" it's pretty hard.

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Post by Damogran6 »

Ensorceled wrote: post #207

I feel like every recommendation engine has tanked in 2022 along with a matching upswing in ads. Audible is aggressively recommending an audiobook I already bought and listened to, it's even in their "your year so far" list because I listened to it in January. Their 2-for-1, annual, special offer emails are coming 2-3 a week now. My Facebook timeline is full of crappy "Suggested for you" entries. I doom scrolled last…

I moved from the Facebook app to the web interface, and when it gets really bad, I just close it and do something else, hoping it will teach it something.

Don't give me a 'stop seeing this ad' button? Disengage.

Show me the same damned solar ad for the second dozen times? Disengage.

Keep showing me 'do you know this person' every third page? Disengage.

Also, I've found I just don't contribute anymore. Reddit has become a Read Only site...because there are so many people contributing, there's no way what I'm going to contribute hasn't already been posted by 4 other people, higher up in the algorithm.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by FartyMcFarter »

dwighttk wrote: post #161
FartyMcFarter wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a "don't recommend channel" option if you click the 3 dots button on a video. I use this liberally for all sorts of reasons and it makes my recommendations much better.

For some reason that only shows up in certain webviews (I’m not interested in the app)

You're right, it shows up on the youtube homepage as well as the recommendations on the right side, but not for a particular video while watching it.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by alexb_ »

BurningPenguin wrote: post #230
FartyMcFarter wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a "don't recommend channel" option if you click the 3 dots button on a video. I use this liberally for all sorts of reasons and it makes my recommendations much better.

I've blocked entire accounts, because it kept coming back every time i searched for something specific. It was one of these "10 best " channels. Really annoying.

Top 10 videos are so often just complete crap. Every once in a while you will get a decent production, and even rarer you get one of those that isn't also an ad for something (looking at you, MrWhoseTheBoss). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz_xJPN7lAY comes to mind as one of the "good ones". But the format is just so perfect for what YouTube as a platform rewards.

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by ricardobayes »

sph wrote: post #44
ageitgey wrote: post #15

I don't personally think the dislike button is the explanation. But something seems to have changed in the Youtube recommendations algo in the last few weeks. In my experience, the algo has gotten very noticeably worse recently: - Recommending lots of 6 - 12 year old videos on topics I'm interested in (who cares about a 12 year old product review?) - Recommending tons of videos I've already seen or recommending reall…

> Recommending tons of videos I've already seen or recommending really, really old videos from people I normally watch. It's always done this, but it seems worse recently. Also, subscribe to a channel, get recommended their entire repertoire of the last decade. I have stopped subscribing, and I'm actively unsubscribing from most channels except the very small ones that post twice a year and I don't want to miss. What…

Are you giving enough 'input' to the engine? Topics that you like or comment will be ranked higher.

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Post by gowld »

the_only_law wrote: post #224
alexb_ wrote: post #105

I've recently heard about this YouTube account named Roel Van De Paar. If you've looked up any error message on YouTube recently, you've probably run into him. Because of the "no dislikes" change, he's everywhere now. And by everywhere, I mean EVERYWHERE. The account has over 2 million videos. Approximately 0.2% of ALL videos on the ENTIRE platform of YouTube can be attributed to this account, and if you check now th…

Is this guy making income from doing this? I may have to re-evaluate my career if I can pay my rent by mostly just dumping random internet content into a video.

One month of work to build an automation pipeline. $50/mo revenue. still need a real job

Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me

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Post by plaguepilled »

In accounting you sometimes hear that it is near-impossible to liquidate Goodwill, but given the implied increase in (malicious) advertiser spending from this move, I would say that's exactly what's happened. Shame in YouTube for their cavalier attitude.

There needs to be some actual consequences to Google when one of their products is noticeably downgraded like this.

But, alas, there are no worthy competitors. Vimeo is a bad user experience. PeerTube, is not only clunky, but is also tarnished by its facilitation of crypto. All other platforms are too small to seriously compete.

As an aside, I have zero patience for Susan Wojcicki's vision of the platform or for her idea of what constitutes protecting targeted creators. These measures are ineffective at best.

But at worst, they are actively damaging to the people they claim to protect. Disliking plagiaristic, incorrect, or dangerous suggestions is a form of community regulation. Hearing the YT team wax lyrical about the morality of their choice is a sickening display of conscious hypocrisy.

I can only hope that someone with a lot of server space (and, ideally, less of a profit motive) can step in to fill the vacuum.

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