This is why a laugh out loud whenever anyone says Google's ML is light years ahead.
The algorithm actually pushes me away from the site.
Unless that's their intention... in which case - amazing work!
No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me
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#152I deliberately cast a wide net on YouTube and I'm not coming across all of that sort of junk on a frequent enough basis for it to annoy me. The "algorithm" is pretty good in my book and tends to surface things I would genuinely find interesting, so I'm curious why it isn't for you. Do you use subscriptions a lot? I have over 1000 subs so YouTube really knows what I'm into which might help.
> I'm not coming across all of that sort of junk
If you have 1000 subscriptions, your page must be completely full of junk that you’ll never watch? You can’t possibly be watching 1000 videos per week.
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#153WH videos are not disliked anymore so it is working as intended.
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#154You might want to use something like https://fraidyc.at to curate a list of subscriptions. You'll see only those and not what Google decides to show you.
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#155The recommendations seem to have gotten much better for me after they removed the dislike button.
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#156I don't think it should be a surprise that as Youtube hired more and more experienced hands from cable and broadcast TV that it would progressively become more and more like TV. People complain about the manipulative algorithms. But they don't exist in a vacuum, they are the results of some execs deciding to manipulate people. And the way those decisions are made is the same way traditional TV made during all those y…
Hmm. Has YouTube been in the news for hiring broadcast execs?
As somebody who is connected to broadcast, that doesn’t seem right to me - broadcast TV tends to be very control-freak-ish and the higher ups LOVE data, and I really doubt a broadcast exec would willingly chuck out an audience measurement datapoint. The broadcast ad model is that you create shows that have big audiences so you get lots of ad impressions. The decision to remove the dislike button seems more about removing community negativity and/or simplifying moderation, which isn’t really something that I’d expect a TV exec to put a big push on.
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#157I only ever watch videos from channels I subscribe to, or videos that have come up through search.
I also use the Firefox addon 'Enhancer for Youtube' to automatically hide all chat, recommended videos, info boxes and all that junk. Also disables autoplay.
My time is too precious to spend watching random and sometimes entertaining, yet in the end often useless videos.
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#158Let's all take a moment to reflect on how much worse we (the software developers) have made this by building (essentially automated spam) tools like https://www.synthesia.io/ For example, their "Lays Messi" ad campaign had 650 million video variations available in 8 languages.... I predict that in a year, the majority of internet videos will not only be random stock 4K videos, but they will be overlay-ed with AI avat…
Yeah that's youtube shorts. One of the reason I use vanced even if I have youtube premium is that it's the only way to just turn that half baked feature off. I wouldn't mind youtube's tiktok clone as much if it at least didn't have such a weird UI. It's so badly integrated to the rest of the app that it completely messes with your navigation buttons, and in general looks like a separate app inside the app. Which means performance is very bad too.
Instagram pushes its own tiktok clone very hard too (Reels), but the experience is a lot smoother compared to YT Shorts.
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#159What is hilarious is for years people asked for a Dislike button on Facebook, and they obliged with their quirky more options to not just like but evoke other emotions, but still no dislike. Instagram, Snapchat, and Tik Tok I believe don't have dislike. How long until reddit joins the bandwagon of we have no negativity.
It also feels like the other platforms that never had likes from the get go have good recommendation algorithms but YouTube pulled it prematurely. What I would of done is secretly make the dislike meaningless (still store it, but ignore the value for any querying) through A / B testing and see how engagement breaks.
I'm not sure what lead them to remove it, but I'm already on there less and less as it is. They lost me when they didn't honor my grandfathered YouTube read cause my debit card expired (I was a Google Music All Access subscriber and was grandfathered in) so now I had to pay for both or either or. No thank you. I went with Apple and got Apple Music instead anyway.
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#160I watch YouTube without logging in. The quality of recommendations I get is pretty good. I would say that I get very different recommendations on different browsers at different times so your mileage may vary.