I deliberately cast a wide net on YouTube and I'm not coming across all of that sort of junk on a frequent enough basis for it to annoy me. The "algorithm" is pretty good in my book and tends to surface things I would genuinely find interesting, so I'm curious why it isn't for you. Do you use subscriptions a lot? I have over 1000 subs so YouTube really knows what I'm into which might help.
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#52I would love if there was a setting to tell YouTube that I'm interested into topics, not people. I sometimes don't watch semi interesting videos, because I know that the person is popular and that if I watch one video, my video overview will be spammed for the next week's with uninteresting content of that "popular person".
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#53I dislike the removal of the dislike button.
If you disagree with me (or the OP), and feel like downvoting me, please look in the mirror.
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#54Guys, ok youtube recommendations suck, they may not always have, I don’t know, but does it really matter that much that you need to share your frustration to a community of thousands of tech people? It’s just a product. You don’t complain online when your brand new sneakers hurt your feet, do you? Especially if you got them for free… You don’t like youtube recommendation engine, complain to them, not to us.
You might be missing the point. Dislikes are also feedback to users, the same way you can infer at a quick glance on HN that if a post is 10 hours old, with 30 points, the probability is high that the reward might be low, even if the title appeals to you. YouTube is not just YouTube, it's also a tech juggernaut and thus a UI trend setter. A few months ago they stopped displaying negative feedback to users, a major indicator. They certainly won't discuss with us the result of that experiment, at least when it comes to UX. Telling someone that the topic is not relevant to HN might just be a reflection of your own personal preference on how people should use this community. Also keep in mind that in the past, discussions of that nature stemming from these very threads have at least influenced changes.
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#55get the extension "BlockTube" and block any channel that does this. after a while your feed will get noticably better. People are saying not to click but IMO it doesn't work that well. I make a point of never clicking on any video title like that, and still kept getting flooded My favorite pattern is saying "THIS" and withholding what exactly the video is about - once I saw it used twice in a title and it just cracke…
> block any channel that does this
Isn't there an endless supply of such channels? Or does YouTube notice your lack of engagement?
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#56Without being able to ratio likes to dislikes, every video on YouTube becomes useless for information value. Every video is now for entertainment only, which is what the communist radical left wants - when there is no truth, then whoever shouts the loudest becomes the voice of truth. They have taken a big step towards ruining the internet.
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#57From my experience I think the algorithm gotten a little bit worse, the only drawback of removing dislikes that I am experiencing is that it's getting more difficult for me to realize if a video is just a spam or click-bit, now I need to spend a couple of seconds watching the video, before I used to glance at the dislike numbers, if rating is deactivated or the dislikes are far more than the likes I close the video.
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#58I don't personally think the dislike button is the explanation. But something seems to have changed in the Youtube recommendations algo in the last few weeks. In my experience, the algo has gotten very noticeably worse recently: - Recommending lots of 6 - 12 year old videos on topics I'm interested in (who cares about a 12 year old product review?) - Recommending tons of videos I've already seen or recommending reall…
What bothers me most about the recommendations I get are the videos I have clearly watched. "You recently watched this clip, so we at YouTube think you should watch it again."
Yes, so irritating. I don't understand why they do this.
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#59I don't personally think the dislike button is the explanation. But something seems to have changed in the Youtube recommendations algo in the last few weeks. In my experience, the algo has gotten very noticeably worse recently: - Recommending lots of 6 - 12 year old videos on topics I'm interested in (who cares about a 12 year old product review?) - Recommending tons of videos I've already seen or recommending reall…
- Recommending lots of 6 - 12 year old videos on topics I'm interested in (who cares about a 12 year old product review?)
For many topics 6-12 year old videos are perfectly acceptable.
Re: No Dislikes has officially ruined YouTube for me
#60I don't personally think the dislike button is the explanation. But something seems to have changed in the Youtube recommendations algo in the last few weeks. In my experience, the algo has gotten very noticeably worse recently: - Recommending lots of 6 - 12 year old videos on topics I'm interested in (who cares about a 12 year old product review?) - Recommending tons of videos I've already seen or recommending reall…
> Recommending tons of videos I've already seen or recommending really, really old videos from people I normally watch. It's always done this, but it seems worse recently. Also, subscribe to a channel, get recommended their entire repertoire of the last decade. I have stopped subscribing, and I'm actively unsubscribing from most channels except the very small ones that post twice a year and I don't want to miss. What…
They arent recommendation engines. In the sense that recommendation is not the formal problem of showing someone content with a non-zero probability of their watching it. Recommendation, as we understanding it, means understanding our interests first.
Recommendations systems use average expressed preferences (ie., on-average watch frequency) in others to "recommend" you something.
If we didnt opt for such metaphorical naming things would be clearer. Recommendation should, mostly, just be called "Popularity Ranking".